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    I just wanna know if they are going let DRK override our DK buff, and if they are I better be getting my blunt debuff somewhere or I'm going be one pissed off monk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakmatic View Post
    I just wanna know if they are going let DRK override our DK buff, and if they are I better be getting my blunt debuff somewhere or I'm going be one pissed off monk.
    It's 5% so no probably not
    It'll be nice for teams without a monk though. doubt they'd fuck them over like that lol.



    If chakra doesnt fall off (source apparantly says it doesnt consume?) then it'll be amazing

    edit

    actually, looking at the skill descriptions, it says nothing about it falling off.. though, maybe it times out after a certain time period? Not sure. Not really many details about it.

    Either way..
    I think MAYBE Forbidden costs all 5..which also makes it kind of useless. If it doesnt, unless there's something gating you if it has a recast of 5 seconds. Like, I'm not even sure if you can outthreat a monk doing his rotation + Forbidden every 2 GCD's if it doesnt consume the stacks.
    The TP restore is on a 3 minute cooldown, as well - so that I could understand not draining Chakra. Something weird going on here, 5sec recast is VERY short considering the damage output potential. 7 GCD's for potentially 15000 potency over a fight? uhm?
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    Last edited by Odowla; 06-19-2015 at 08:12 AM.

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    I have a hard time believing it doesn't consume stacks based on the 5s cooldown on Forbidden Chakra. I do wonder if the stacks are static until when you use Forbidden Chakra or Purify and then they have a countdown before it's gone (like 10 seconds or something...)? Wild speculation that I don't expect to be true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricdeau View Post
    I have a hard time believing it doesn't consume stacks based on the 5s cooldown on Forbidden Chakra. I do wonder if the stacks are static until when you use Forbidden Chakra or Purify and then they have a countdown before it's gone? Wild speculation that I don't expect to be true.
    Yeah, that's my point with the Edit.. but.. forbidden might kind of be useless then, which then begs the question of like, what's the point of it, lol. I could see Purify not costing anything sinnce, i mean, it haas a 180 s recast, its not like that really bothers you, but forbidden.. something has to be going on there.
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    Yeah, something in this isn't adding up. The lodestone is down right now so I imagine the patch notes will be up when it's back online. Maybe we'll get some extra details then. I imagine we have the two week gap before Alexander so SE can monitor feedback on the new abilities and adjust them in time for that. They don't have a track record for being that fast with adjustments so maybe that's wishful thinking for any class that does truly end up being behind.
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    Last edited by Ricdeau; 06-19-2015 at 08:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odowla View Post
    If chakra doesnt fall off (source apparantly says it doesnt consume?) then it'll be amazing
    if you were refering to my post earlier on this, i realized i worded it rather poorly, the chakra stacks dont fall off due to time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zamii View Post
    if you were refering to my post earlier on this, i realized i worded it rather poorly, the chakra stacks dont fall off due to time.
    Was your post, yes, but, either way.. a dps skill that doesnt increase DPS? seems fishy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odowla View Post
    Was your post, yes, but, either way.. a dps skill that doesnt increase DPS? seems fishy.
    the whole point of the chakra system, at least from my perspective, is to reduce the cost of downtime, we know from previous theorycrafting that if tornado kick was 500 potency, it would be a dps increase to use it in rotation, if only just.
    with this in mind we can safely say that if we have enough forced downtime that we can get forbidden chakra, that the use of this in combination with tornado kick as phase transition, we actually gain dps when you exclude downtime, what i mean is if the boss is for example invulnerable, no one can hit the boss, but the monk can still be doing dps during this period if you consider chakra to be a 64 potency skill (320 / 5), it doesnt sound like much but it should change a lot when it comes to monks and forced downtime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odowla View Post
    It's 5% so no probably not
    Its 10% http://i.imgur.com/rbohVlD.jpg. It is also the higher potency combo out of their rotation, so it will be used with or without a monk.
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    After thinking a little about chakra, i come to a sudden conclusion, 4 stacks of chakra will take 6 seconds to generate, just enough that we can keep greased lightning with enough skill speed, but 5 stacks we wont be able to, so essentially any downtime that forces you to lose greased lightning, you will undoubtedly have 5 stacks of chakra waiting.
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