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Thread: Lustrate nerf

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    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignAegis View Post
    I am trying to stay optimistic but on scholars this was our only burst heal. Everything else was tied to a shield and so the actual healing was significantly lower. I don't know the scholar new skills in detail quite yet but at present I am anxious. Lustrate under galvanize was a fantastic way to secure a dead tank.
    do you even know how much 600 potency is? cure 2 has 650 and heals around 3000 on a warrior. the warrior in my raidgroup has around 11k HP. don't think the change is significant :O
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    do you even know how much 600 potency is? cure 2 has 650 and heals around 3000 on a warrior. the warrior in my raidgroup has around 11k HP. don't think the change is significant :O

    I admit I never played white mage much so I wasn't familiar the heal numbers were that high. In that case I cease any complaints, that is actually a good buff for me.

    I thank you!

    (FF14 desperately needs to take on LoL's "Face value" number / game mechanics system. 600 potency means absolutely nothing to me.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignAegis View Post
    so I wasn't familiar the heal numbers were that high.
    warrior has a 20% healbuff on his defiance to compensate his higher life
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    Why not just give us a straight up Physick II. I kean there is Cure II, Benefic II, Medica II, where is Physick II. If Summoners got Ruin III, Scholars should get Physick II. Sorry SE but right now you suck, you suck so hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    Why not just give us a straight up Physick II. I kean there is Cure II, Benefic II, Medica II, where is Physick II. If Summoners got Ruin III, Scholars should get Physick II. Sorry SE but right now you suck, you suck so hard.
    And what would you want Physik 2 to do? Might as well just add "u win" button that instantly kills all enemies within range, so SCH can stop whining how their class still is not good enough.
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    At first I thought this was a bit of a nerf too, but when you think about some of the combos you could use, this sounds like a pretty amazing buff.

    This is still speculation, but if Dissipation gives back a full 3 Aetherflow stacks, we could stock 6 Lustrates. Now if you have Eos, you could use Fey Illumination for the 20% heal buff, get 20% from Dissipation, and potentially spam six Lustrates at 840 potency each. Whether or not you'll ever be in the situation to have to do that is debatable, but being able to potentially cast six 840 potency single target heals every single second is nothing short of amazing. Definitely would not make me miss a 25% cure.

    Yeah we lose the ability to cure while in stance, but I play a fair bit of WHM too, so it's something worth getting used to anyway. I felt lazy with SCH sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    Why not just give us a straight up Physick II. I kean there is Cure II, Benefic II, Medica II, where is Physick II. If Summoners got Ruin III, Scholars should get Physick II. Sorry SE but right now you suck, you suck so hard.
    you don't need a physick 2 because the combined heal from you and your fairy is already like a physic 2...
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    From what I understand the change is less to force stance dancing and more to prevent healing down mechanics from being ignored (i.e. Ramuh EX).
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    Quote Originally Posted by amihavingfunyet View Post
    And what would you want Physick 2 to do? Might as well just add "u win" button that instantly kills all enemies within range, so SCH can stop whining how their class still is not good enough.
    No Physick 2 doesn't have to be a "U Win" button. And hell yeah me and any other Scholar are going to whine about these new moves and nerfs because they suck. Even the Summoner complaint threads only complained that summoner wasn't "true to its origins" no one questioned the viability of their moves, besides Tri-Disaster, now Tri-Bind. WHM is getting awesome moves on top of the good ones they already had. But Scholar is getting all situational moves, and had some of our old moves nerfed. I'm sure if this was your main job and you had to deal with new moves that basically add nothing to your game play, and getting your old moves nerfed, you would be pissed too. Granted we have to see how everything fits together but on the surface, this sucks.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    you don't need a physick 2 because the combined heal from you and your fairy is already like a physic 2...
    Yeah I know the combo is like Physick 2, just you have to admit, Physick 2 would of been a better move to add over every other move Scholar got.
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    When I saw the topic I was a bit worried about one of my main survival skills when under fire from multiple sources as SCH in PVP- but considering how you can't even use cleric stance in PVP anymore (ah, those were the days....) maybe this will have more upsides than downsides from that perspective.
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