Lustrate nerf

[Galdous]

Considering you did not even say anything on what I asked I would say you missed the mark all together. What nerf did the scholar actually receive? The spell speed change is a direct change of how skill/spell speed has been made much stronger then in the past. Plus using the buff actually nerfed the dps for some jobs based on how long the fight was. Only real change scholar was hit with was lustrate being altered from a % based heal to a potency based heal with a chance for crit as well.

But the real question is why the white mage hit with some pretty big nerfs when they are weaker then scholars to begin with? All SE had to do was to created new hurdles that could not just let a group gather swarms of adds and aoe/stun down. Holy did not need the nerf that was given. Presence of mind was heavily nerfed that did allow a white mage to have 1.5 gcd and really be a spamming powerhouse for a few seconds. Letting it affect hots and not actual cast times with its long cooldown is a big over the top. Maybe take a page from the holy bible of copy wow and steal the spell from druids that lets them speed up hot ticks for a single target.

[amihavingfunyet]

I don't think SCH got any nerfs, but some people must see it as nerfs or we wouldn't have a "Lustrate nerf" thread. As far as I know those are the only two abilities that changed.

[DarkmoonVael]

The change in lustrate is really not a nerf per se, but what it does indicate is a (deliberate?) move by the devs to make sch dps'ing in a raid more difficult. Lustrate is now significantly more powerful when used on any non-tank class, effected by healing buffs, can crit. It seems to be more of a side move than a nerf to me.

Overall, there seems to be (on paper anyway) a shift in the raid meta when it comes to healing. It seems to be the case that healing dps in a raid is being made more difficult and/or costly to me, with assize being an outlier rather than the norm. Sch seems to be shifted toward a more dedicated healer with built in mitigation rather than the stance dancing lunatic it has been for quite a while with all the bells and whistles it is still retaining vis-a-vis healing.

[ckc22]

I'm probably quitting the job and healing in general because of the changes to whm and sch and the addition of ast.

[Eloah]

I'm probably quitting the job and healing in general because of the changes to whm and sch and the addition of ast.

Yeah, SE is really shoe-horning innthe whole, Healers shouldn't DPS idea. WHY SQUARE, WHY!?

[Viviza]

Yeah, SE is really shoe-horning innthe whole, Healers shouldn't DPS idea. WHY SQUARE, WHY!?

Are they? I haven't seen any changes that suggest this. As someone who mains white mage, I see a Holy change that is roughly in parity with Flare, and two new AOE DPS spells, one of which I'll use even if I'm full-time healing because it will restore mana. From a scholar perspective, good points are being made about lustrate being a sidegrade rather than a nerf, and the point of clerics stance still remains that you trade off healing capability for DPS while up.

It seems to me that people are just, well, reacting. They see unfamiliar changes and assume that these changes are bad.

[Cynfael]

Are they? I haven't seen any changes that suggest this. As someone who mains white mage, I see a Holy change that is roughly in parity with Flare, and two new AOE DPS spells, one of which I'll use even if I'm full-time healing because it will restore mana. From a scholar perspective, good points are being made about lustrate being a sidegrade rather than a nerf, and the point of clerics stance still remains that you trade off healing capability for DPS while up.

It seems to me that people are just, well, reacting. They see unfamiliar changes and assume that these changes are bad.

Pretty much. As a SCH main, I'm confident that the change to Lustrate won't hurt my off-DPS game in the slightest. Only those who relied too heavily on Lustrate to maintain CS will suffer.

[Parapluies]

I'm probably quitting the job and healing in general because of the changes to whm and sch and the addition of ast.

Yeah, bad healers and whinners should quit. Seriously O/

[Eggnook24]

As a SCH main, I don't mind the "nerf" at all. Crit Lustrate? Yes please, and thankyouverymuch.