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  1. #21
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Adore Mi
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    Wow, are you kidding me? They nerf the damage, add more cast time to an already slow spell, and then make it cost 3 times the MP?
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    Player : フェアリーのミラプリも作ってるんですか?
    (Any plan on Fairies glamour?)
    Yoshi'p Sampo: フェアリーはエギではないので、予定がないです。残念ながら。
    (Since Fairies aren't Egi so, No.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Wow, are you kidding me? They nerf the damage, add more cast time to an already slow spell, and then make it cost 3 times the MP?
    It's always been a 3 second cast and the increased MP cost is probably because it's scaling as a level 60 WHM versus level 50 that we're used to now.

    Though the damage nerf feels a little uncalled for. Oh well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhuni View Post
    I can understand why Holys been nerfed with the increase to our AoE arsenal, Stone III, Aero III and Assize.
    I just really hope Holy doesn't cost as much mana as it did before to compensate for the nerf.

    I guess our AoE rotation would look something like this:

    Assize > Aero III > Holy (Till mobs build stun resist) > Stone III
    Stone 3 is single target.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnificentOxen View Post
    Stone 3 is single target.
    Looks an awful lot like AoE unless you have a source saying otherwise, I want Holy back!
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    Aero III, 50 initial + 40 potency X 8 tick = 370 potency AoE. Dayum. That along with the 300 potency, instant cast, free, MP regening Assize, probably required a Holy nerf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    It's always been a 3 second cast and the increased MP cost is probably because it's scaling as a level 60 WHM versus level 50 that we're used to now.

    Though the damage nerf feels a little uncalled for. Oh well.
    If you look at the screenshot that was posted of the original it was a 2.75 second cast. It's now 2.93, does less damage (to all except the first enemy) and costs literally three times the MP.

    EDIT: Actually, it's over three times the cost. The original MP was 532. 532 x 3 = 1,596. It's now listed as 1,768.
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    Last edited by NorthernLadMSP; 06-18-2015 at 07:15 AM.
    Player : フェアリーのミラプリも作ってるんですか?
    (Any plan on Fairies glamour?)
    Yoshi'p Sampo: フェアリーはエギではないので、予定がないです。残念ながら。
    (Since Fairies aren't Egi so, No.)

  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    If you look at the screenshot that was posted of the original it was a 2.75 second cast. It's now 2.93, does less damage (to all except the first enemy) and costs literally three times the MP.
    You realize MP costs and MP scale according to level right? Costs/MP scaled about 3.3X from 50 -> 60 in all cases for all jobs, nothing weird about it.

    Also the 2.75 cast is with i130 SS at level 50. The 2.93 is probably just low SS for level 60 scaling. It may be a 3.5s GCD and that's in fact high SS, but I doubt it.
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  8. #28
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    I realize there's scaling with level cap to 60. I guess it will depend on what total MP cost a WHM has at 60.
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    Player : フェアリーのミラプリも作ってるんですか?
    (Any plan on Fairies glamour?)
    Yoshi'p Sampo: フェアリーはエギではないので、予定がないです。残念ながら。
    (Since Fairies aren't Egi so, No.)

  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    If you look at the screenshot that was posted of the original it was a 2.75 second cast. It's now 2.93, does less damage (to all except the first enemy) and costs literally three times the MP.
    It's probably 2.75 seconds for Selli because Selli (or whomever she got the image from) is a spell speed WHM. For me (Crit WHM), Holy is 2.93s, just like in the Twitter screen shot listed.

    Also, I will repeat myself, it probably costs 3x the MP because the MP cost scaling from level 50 to level 60.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhuni View Post
    Looks an awful lot like AoE unless you have a source saying otherwise, I want Holy back!
    https://twitter.com/charmwitch/statu...444160/photo/1
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