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    Ethos Veris
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    They are nerfing Flare the same way as Holy... looks like SE finally gave up being able to design dungeons to stop speed runs and just decided to nerf abilities themselves from benefiting on large pulls.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    I realize there's scaling with level cap to 60. I guess it will depend on what total MP cost a WHM has at 60.
    the astrologian shown today had nearly 13k MP. I imagine it is safe to assume the 3 healers are around the same area since they share gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnificentOxen View Post
    *Slowly puts down Cane*
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    Selli Noblesse
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhuni View Post
    Assize > Aero III > Holy (Till mobs build stun resist) > Stone III
    I don't think you'd want to start of with Assize considering it does heal. You'd probably want to you use it more toward the middle of the end of your DPS rotation to heal the tank (and possibly Melee) after they take damage. Not to mention you don't want 10% MP restore at full MP.

    I think it might be more like.

    [EDIT] Just found out Stone III isn't an AoE, lol. QwQ

    Aero III > Holyx1-3 > Assize
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    Last edited by Selli; 06-18-2015 at 07:48 AM.

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    Velo'a Nharoz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhuni View Post
    Looks an awful lot like AoE unless you have a source saying otherwise, I want Holy back!
    It's supposed to replace Stone II as the natural progression primary single-target DPS. This helps with skill bloat. Other than the heavy attached to Stone it was still replaced by Stone II. Thunder III replaced Thunder II which replaced Thunder.
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    Menae Dulanis
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    I realize there's scaling with level cap to 60. I guess it will depend on what total MP cost a WHM has at 60.

    Black Mage base MP is a bit over 11k at 60, and they don't put Piety on their gear. Holy seems about right in terms of MP cost. Still a weird nerf though.
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    Good King Moogle Mog, Good King Mog! Lord of all the land (kupo)!

  7. #37
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    Ethos Veris
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selli View Post
    I don't think you'd want to start of with Assize considering it does heal. You'd probably want to you use it more toward the middle of the end of your DPS rotation to heal the tank (and possibly Melee) after they take damage.

    I think it might be more like.

    Holyx1 (for the stun) > Aero III > (possible Assize here) > Stone III > (possible Assize here)

    Or even

    Aero III > Holy > Stone III > Assize
    Assize is probably virtually worthless as a heal in Cleric Stance anyway so you might as well use it after Swiftcast + Aero 3/Holy between the GCD transition into Holy Spam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selli View Post
    Snippy snip
    Yeah you're problaby right regarding Assize unless:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethos View Post
    Assize is probably virtually worthless as a heal in Cleric Stance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethos View Post
    Assize is probably virtually worthless as a heal in Cleric Stance anyway so you might as well use it after Swiftcast + Aero 3/Holy between the GCD transition into Holy Spam.
    Then use it at the very end. When I do dungeons I usually throw Regen on the tank Cleric, Holy 3 times, and then Cure II him and then Regen again and DoT whatever has the highest HP.

    Might be better to Assize instead of Cure II and also avoid putting Shroud on cooldown. It still wouldn't be in the opening, it would be more toward the end of the rotation.

    [EDIT] And if Assize is effected by Cleric. It's heal is either going to suck IN Cleric or it's DPS is going to suck WITHOUT Cleric. You might have to chose which one you want to use it for, since you should basically be using it every single time its off CD.
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    Last edited by Selli; 06-18-2015 at 08:34 AM.

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    That account's GONE. What'd it say?
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