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  1. #231
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    FriendlyUncle's Avatar
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    Geneis Arcais
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    Moogle
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    I would not presume to speak for other people.

    But please recall that this is a game, a luxury item, and as with any luxury item, there is nothing morally or ethically wrong with the seller asking people to pay as much as the market will bear for it.
    What does it matter if it is a luxury item? A television is a luxury item, you expect it to work and the picture to be adequate. When you purchase any good or service you have an expectation. An expectation isn't being met here, regardless of how much or little disposable income any one player has and if that expectation isn't being met you should bitch because if you don't they aren't going to know they need to take the issue seriously. What if people didn't raise hell about the whole XBox red ring of death back when? Think Microsoft would have still done warranty repairs on those systems if hundreds of thousands of people didn't express their disappointment.

    These are people who are wanting to use in game systems, Glamour, crafting, gathering and being restricted by inventory then told to throw it away or give SE money. SE designed these systems, specifically glamour which didnt need to use inventory, to consume inventory spaces and with each update and expansion the available maximum inventory remains the same while the number of usable items increases in addition to glamour armor which according Live Letters the developers and Yoshi P are totally into and behind. So much that they design items SPECIFICALLY for glamour then yes, they need to take this issue seriously.

    How does additional inventory for all players negatively affect you let alone anyone in this forum? If you are just here to white knight SE for yet another cash shop purchase when we all ready have to pay an increase sub fee to have multiple characters per server, yet we cannot give these characters items from our mains without a third-party, an FC, or the market board as an intervening factor. The inventory complaints everyone has had could have been alleviated day one by allowing us to mule efficiently, reaped the rewards of the extra couple bucks a month from the sub change but instead they choose to skirt around the issue offering pay only solutions while people like you Silverbane create a forum account just to white knight SE when they are receiving criticism on a decision that affects paying customers.
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  2. #232
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    Lewtskie's Avatar
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    Rynka Shadowrane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blissa View Post
    Obliviously you must not craft. Because I have 4 retainers now and 1 of my 8 level 50 crafters can FILL all 80 selling slots on my retainers. What am I supposed to do. Twiddle my thumbs and do nothing why I wait for stuff to sell? The expansion is in 2 days and they know people are going to need more spaces to sell. What a perfect time to hit them up for another $8 a month.
    Sorry, but you are one of the people that are actively working past the necessary minimum. You're the demographic that they are aiming for with this limited business. Because they know people like you will never be content with managing what you're given. And yes, it's entirely possible to do so, but you choose to work in excess. This is how marketing works and how money is made.
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  3. #233
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    Apollo Dioscuri
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    Malboro
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    Pugilist Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Lewtskie View Post
    Sorry, but you are one of the people that are actively working past the necessary minimum. You're the demographic that they are aiming for with this limited business. Because they know people like you will never be content with managing what you're given. And yes, it's entirely possible to do so, but you choose to work in excess. This is how marketing works and how money is made.
    It's funny though, I thought we were already paying them.
    I must've been mistaken.
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  4. #234
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    Blissa Whitewolf
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    Just be like me and don't pay for what you don't feel is worth the money
    I am not willing to pay for it! I canceled my sub and I canceled my preorder. As I said in the other post. First they wanted $13 a month and then they wanted another $4 a month and now the want another $8 month. When does it end?

    The funny thing is they say they can't give us any more inventory spaces due server limitations. But some how $12 a month magically fixes those limitations!
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  5. #235
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    Lillia's Avatar
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    Lillia Hope
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    Leviathan
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    White Mage Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    Bottom line is, if the game says you can do everything on one character, and they keep adding kore items/gear to the game, more storage is needed. But to make us pay for most of it is uncalled for, simply adding one new retainer would of been enough. And while we aren't sure, hopefully, if we "complain" enough by 3.1 this will be a possibility. SE should learn not to mention anything with a degree of concreteness, as it drives fans wild with speculation, and when those speculations aren't realized, there is a major backlash.
    Eventually gear is replaced though, least.. I know that I replace my gear when I get new pieces? I'd hope people replace theirs when they get newer pieces too, meaning the older gear shouldn't sit around anyways unless it's gonna be desyn'd or something. :/

    Only excusable reason I could think of is if another class needs the gear but then you just toss out the other gears you're not glamouring or like to glamour with to GC or something. :/

    For mats.. well I do the same thing but I am probably going to try to toss out stuff that I can easily get back or make if there's a lot of newer mats however I still do have room even with mats from 2.0 ~ 2.55.

    And to put this out there for people; I have bought from mogstation like fantasia and my wristlet but nothing like a mount, minions or retainers so I'm still dealing with 2 myself but... there's ways to manage the issue with two retainers i'd like to believe.
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    Last edited by Lillia; 06-18-2015 at 06:09 AM.

  6. #236
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    Quote Originally Posted by ziddyt View Post
    It's funny though, I thought we were already paying them.
    I must've been mistaken.
    Should I make an in-depth list as to what you're getting per month? Cause I'm certain I can show you that what you're paying for is all you'll ever need to actually play this game and partake in all of its content.
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  7. #237
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    Blissa Whitewolf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewtskie View Post
    Sorry, but you are one of the people that are actively working past the necessary minimum. You're the demographic that they are aiming for with this limited business. Because they know people like you will never be content with managing what you're given. And yes, it's entirely possible to do so, but you choose to work in excess. This is how marketing works and how money is made.
    They are not making another dime off me! I canceled my sub and I canceled my preorder!
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  8. #238
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    Apollo Dioscuri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewtskie View Post
    Should I make an in-depth list as to what you're getting per month? Cause I'm certain I can show you that what you're paying for is all you'll ever need to actually play this game and partake in all of its content.
    Your list isn't going to change what's actually in my inventory, nor all of the new items (specifically gear for three new jobs) being added into that.
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  9. #239
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    Keylus Laststorm
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    Play with the bare minimum or pay is a thing in the F2P/P2W, It shouldn't be in a P2P
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  10. #240
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    Ice Wing
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    Bottom line is, if the game says you can do everything on one character, and they keep adding kore items/gear to the game, more storage is needed. But to make us pay for most of it is uncalled for, simply adding one new retainer would of been enough. And while we aren't sure, hopefully, if we "complain" enough by 3.1 this will be a possibility. SE should learn not to mention anything with a degree of concreteness, as it drives fans wild with speculation, and when those speculations aren't realized, there is a major backlash.
    Agreed, someone should make a petition thread to get one of the retainers for free, or have different options to chose from such as "Three free retainers total" "A discount for paying for all retainers" or "It's fine the way they've made it" so that all PoV's are seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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