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  1. #221
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    Blissa Whitewolf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    Thoreau once said "If I knew for a certainty that a man was coming to my house with the conscious design of doing me good, I should run for my life." As you yourself are obviously not one of those addicts of which you speak, please harken to the words of Thoreau and stop trying to do good to those of us who might be.

    You don't even know us. You're not qualified to advocate on our behalf.

    You mind your interests, and I'll mind mine. Fair enough?
    That was not directed at you, but I speak the truth!
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  2. #222
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    Quote Originally Posted by IceWing View Post
    "Deal with it they charge what ever the f they want. If you don't want to pay for it, then you don't get it."
    Yup, and its those people with that mindset which are responsible for what the gaming industry has become lately. Its just sad. Of course theyd probably just proudly say something along the lines of "Dont like it? Stop gaming."
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  3. #223
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    Z'nnah Silverbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blissa View Post
    That was not directed at you, but I speak the truth!
    The truth is, no one has to pay more to play FFXIV:ARR with the launch of HW. Subscription fees are unchanged. You are not forced to hire new retainers. You do have to buy HW to access the new content, but even then your subscription rate is remaining the same.

    So even someone addicted to FFXIV does not need to pay more to continue indulging their vice.
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  4. #224
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    Rakuyo Mitani
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    I thought for sure that we were getting a third free retainer with 3.0, but I guess I misunderstood or things were translated poorly or something. This is pretty disappointing to me, and I really don't want to have to pay $2 per month extra just to spare myself some inventory woes. It's not that I can't afford it. My boyfriend and I already spend $30/month on this game (or somewhat less with subscribing for more than 1 month at a time, but still), and I have always felt like quality of life changes like increased storage and whatnot were something included with a subscription fee. I have never played any other game, free or subscription, that asked for a monthly rental fee for extra storage space.

    I find it hard to believe that having a fully functioning armoire and/or a glamour log would be difficult to implement, and both of these would go a long way to help out with storage capacity problems they claim to have. At the very least, it would be nice to have account storage or be able to mail things to alts. Using FC chest to transfer things between alts is not an option for everyone (Both my FC and my alt's FC chests are pretty much full at this point, and not everyone has full FC chest access either). I don't know, some sort of change would be nice. I got rid of a lot of glamour things and crafting mats that I was holding onto so that I could make some space for 3.0 things, but that still only left me with about half a retainer of space.
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  5. #225
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    Blissa Whitewolf
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    Quote Originally Posted by KayoZ View Post
    Yup, and its those people with that mindset which are responsible for what the gaming industry has become lately. Its just sad. Of course theyd probably just proudly say something along the lines of "Dont like it? Stop gaming."
    I am almost to that point! $60 for Evolve and another $240 for DLC. $60 for Batman and another $80 for a dlc subscription and now $25 a month to play FFXIV if you want max Inventory spaces. I mean seriously $300 a year to play this game joke!
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  6. #226
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    Tayolynn Medfazyre
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    It's disturbing how they take back the 1 extra retainer with expansion thing and add even more space eating items like "Collectible Items", on top of the new gear, recipe mats, item drops, etc. to eventually force everyone to cave in and fork over money for more inventory space.

    The white knights will gladly throw money at it and the ones that repel it will eventually get over it and will be forced to hand over the money. Even those who do well in space management will eventually feel the hurt of limited inventory space.

    Those who don't want to pay and suffer from limited space are forced to get rid of things when they shouldn't be forced to play a certain way from something as small as glamouring space. I can already forecast in the future that any new incoming jobs will be behind a pay wall, because they'll have us pay for the extra soul gem space. But hey, it's not P2W because having that specific class is just glamour and doesn't give any particular advantage, right? Don't like it? They'll get over it and pay eventually.

    SE is getting bold with the idea that the players will throw away money on just about anything nowadays.
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    Last edited by Tayolynn; 06-18-2015 at 05:42 AM.

  7. #227
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    Z'nnah Silverbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by KayoZ View Post
    Of course theyd probably just proudly say something along the lines of "Dont like it? Stop gaming."
    No need for that, there are plenty of major F2P games.
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  8. #228
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    Bottom line is, if the game says you can do everything on one character, and they keep adding kore items/gear to the game, more storage is needed. But to make us pay for most of it is uncalled for, simply adding one new retainer would of been enough. And while we aren't sure, hopefully, if we "complain" enough by 3.1 this will be a possibility. SE should learn not to mention anything with a degree of concreteness, as it drives fans wild with speculation, and when those speculations aren't realized, there is a major backlash.
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

  9. #229
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    Blissa Whitewolf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    The truth is, no one has to pay more to play FFXIV:ARR with the launch of HW. Subscription fees are unchanged. You are not forced to hire new retainers. You do have to buy HW to access the new content, but even then your subscription rate is remaining the same.

    So even someone addicted to FFXIV does not need to pay more to continue indulging their vice.
    Obliviously you must not craft. Because I have 4 retainers now and 1 of my 8 level 50 crafters can FILL all 80 selling slots on my retainers. What am I supposed to do. Twiddle my thumbs and do nothing why I wait for stuff to sell? The expansion is in 2 days and they know people are going to need more spaces to sell. What a perfect time to hit them up for another $8 a month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blissa View Post
    I am almost to that point! $60 for Evolve and another $240 for DLC. $60 for Batman and another $80 for a dlc subscription and now $25 a month to play FFXIV if you want max Inventory spaces. I mean seriously $300 a year to play this game joke!
    Just be like me and don't pay for what you don't feel is worth the money (or you feel is ethically/morally wrong). I am going to get Arkham Knight, but I am NOT paying for the DLC. I am perfectly content with a vanilla game. If I wasn't, but still wished to play, I'd just spend my time on something else (like this game maybe) and wait for the eventual mark-down/sale a year or so after. Even the Smash Bros paid DLC is kinda ridiculous IMO. Whereas games like Hyrule Warriors will give you a HUGE amount of quality DLC with that game for $20. That is a perfectly justifiable cost.

    In the case of retainers, given how it is with having the 2 paid retainers, I really only need 1... maybe 2 more. An extra $2-4 monthly isn't wallet breaking for (safe to assume) 99% of the player population. My only issue is the lack of a reason why inventory expansion (player inventory, armoire, company chest) is such an issue, when they can clearly double the already existing load with this. If they're willing to tell us server capacity is an issue for inventory related limitations, they should be more than willing to tell us why it's suddenly okay as long as we pay for it lol.
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