Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[Nominous]

Well, there goes my custom of popping BfB on the pull x_x... Now it'll probably make more sense to put BfB further ahead in the starter.

[Jonnycbad]

Probably should use it b4b right before Chaos Thrust, as usual so you get at least one Claw&Fang and one Wheeling Thrust under its duration, then use it as it comes available, but wait for Dervy to math it out.

[Dervy]

If it starts with a duration of 30s, you're wasting one BotD reset as it caps at 30s. Think about it this way, between HT and Chaos Thrust, we'll need to pop Internal Release, Blood for Blood, X-Pot, Blood of the Dragon, Battle Litany and most probably Power Surge. I already double stack IR + PS together after HT, and X-Pot needs its own weave-space as it's a long animation. That leaves me with Blood of the Dragon, Blood for Blood and Battle Litany to use within 2 GCDs. And if you're using Thendiels opener, you're also trying to fit a Leg Sweep in there.

I could see us pre-casting BotD so we can still double stack our other skills easier. BotD, by the looks of the videos shown, has a very long animation, so I wouldn't want to use it in between a GCD at all, unless you're burning it for a Geirskogul.

[Nominous]

I could see us pre-casting BotD so we can still double stack our other skills easier.

Exactly. So BoTD on pull is what I was thinking. If it's initial duration is 30 seconds, that's more than enough to reach Chaos Thrust>4th Combo, which will leave BoTD at 25-30 seconds left. Which, more or less, syncs with Chaos Thrust's DoT duration anyway. Then hit Phleb, refresh HT. It's just our normal rotation at that point, add in Claw+Fang>Geirskogul. It makes enough sense, anyway.

[Aiurily]

takes 5 gcds to refresh botd (ht>4 hit combo), so 10-15s wait->pull would be an idea

[ChaozK]

So considering HT and PH get a 30 sec duration, pre (or non) BoD rotation:

HT CT PH TTT TTT HT CT PH...?

[SunnyHirose]

Man that's gonna feel so wrong, but seems like it.

[Jonnycbad]

Leveling to 60 is gonna be awkward, wish we could fastforward to 60 so i don't have to struggle with a weird ass incomplete rotation from 52-60.

[Aiurily]

So considering HT and PH get a 30 sec duration, pre (or non) BoD rotation:

HT CT PH TTT TTT HT CT PH...?

yep. with 30s phleb, if you apply it after 4 hit ct combo, ct will be at 26s, phleb will be at 30, then from there you refresh it as normal in that order. its probably likely they'll nerf phlebs potency to compensate for its increased duration.

with the HT>4 hit ct>phleb>4 hit thrust>ht rotation, HT refreshes at 1s left on HT, just like our current rotation~ since geirskogul is confirmed to be oGCD (because it has its own 10s cd), our GCD rotation with botd up should be simple i think

my personal thought is that there's no way they're gonna add a 4th hit combo to ft/ct combo without a drawback to it though. if it follows the trend of having increased potency, that would probably break drg dps (imaging doing 2 full thrusts in a row, 2 chaos thrusts in a row). maybe high tp cost, maybe lower potency, who knows. and then the rotation without BoTD will be a mess

[ChaozK]

I think it flows pretty smoothly actually. Only thing weird will be lvl 56 to 58 when we have Fang and Claw but no Wheeling Thrust.

my personal thought is that there's no way they're gonna add a 4th hit combo to ft/ct combo without a drawback to it though. if it follows the trend of having increased potency, that would probably break drg dps

I expect nothing less than a ridiculous potency on both FaC and WT :>