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    Have people not tried actually looking through their inventory and seeing what they can get rid of before they complain, like a proper check. Also people need to realise that the amount of people that 'hoard' items because they have all jobs at 50 is the minority, having all 50s means nothing, most people just level up something and don't bother much with only having 1 gear set which the current inventory space already accommodates for. The people who use up the inventory space like water are in the minority, SE won't see any point in adding extra servers to store that space for something the players should of been managing already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    Have people not tried actually looking through their inventory and seeing what they can get rid of before they complain, like a proper check. Also people need to realise that the amount of people that 'hoard' items because they have all jobs at 50 is the minority, having all 50s means nothing, most people just level up something and don't bother much with only having 1 gear set which the current inventory space already accommodates for. The people who use up the inventory space like water are in the minority, SE won't see any point in adding extra servers to store that space for something the players should of been managing already.
    Preach~ <3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
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    Got it.

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    To the current discussion... I think SE just needs to implement a Glamour Journal instead of adding more retainers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MythToken View Post
    This game has more inventory space than any other MMO already. Just saying.


    It will never be enough space for those who like to collect/horde.

    Horders gonna Horde.
    Hate to break this to you pumpkin, but you haven't the slightest clue on what you're talking about. And to add to this, even though it's not going to get through to that thick head of yours. This game right here is not EVERY OTHER MMO, this game is final fantasy XIV!. You understand that?, there is a loooooot of items in this game and definitely not enough space for a large majority of these items.
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  5. #165
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Last_Dragoon View Post
    Lots of stuff
    The issue I have with this is the inventory space in this game is limited a great deal. Once all crafters are leveled your inventory will clear up a bit more aside from specific recipes you might use for profit there will be a few low end materials you keep around, Mythril, Steel, Toad/Boar leather in addition to the higher end materials.

    Back during ye old materia rush for Relics, I made most of my gil selling the junk i49-50 accessories. So you have 2-3 different gems and probably a mix of NQ and HQ same with Electrum. Then theres the high-end stuff. Mosshorn DoH/L gear, Dodore leather gear. CUL for Risotto, Deviled Eggs, Buttons.

    And thats just 2-3 crafters that I use for making Gil, and there are times when I switch things up depending on the market. That doesn't mean Im holding onto Animal skins, Bone chips or any super low end fairly worthless items that can be bought from vendors only when I need them.

    Then look at a game like WoW, very simplified crafting system where you can only have two crafts, additional characters do not cost an additional bump in the sub, banks can now be shared between characters on the same server (I think), you can mail items to you alts(even cross server now), has a glamour system that does not require clinging to items that I am aware of(Pretty sure its near identical to Diablo 3) and they have 267 slots per character assuming max bags and people on WoW still want more inventory slots.

    WoW has increased the maximum available inventory each expansion via bag size increases despite an extremely watered down crafting system that does not require many mats, does not require you to hold onto gear if you want to use it to look pretty later, and puts mounts and minions into a menu rather than inventory just like 14 but they still feel the need to increase inventory space. They even have the same vertical gear progress system for the most part.

    Case in point inventory is an issue, maybe no for everyone but for some people and that does not mean they hoard. People who are interested in a wide variety of glamours or multiple crafts at multiple levels should not feel 'punished' by restrictive inventory space because SE wants to blame the server. Hell even FFXI increased storage albeit that had a very mixed gearing system.

    There is a lot they can do to alleviate this issue. Add more weapons and armor to the armoire, particularly 'set' items. Allagan, High Allagan, DW, i90 relic armor. Finish and implement the Arms Guide system to tie into Glamour.

    Allow us to transfer our mail with items to alternate characters, make Retainers or at least one(like a 'shared' bank) cross character (This digs into their potential money from additional retainers though and WILL NOT happen), if we have a room in a FC house allow the furnishings to actually matter. If I have an Armoire/Dresser allow it to hold x amount of armor. You cannot count the FC inventory as a player inventory unless the player expressly made their own FC and leveled it just for this, meaning it is probably a small or one player FC. Those in sizable FCs I highly doubt they are allowed to just sock away their personal crafting items in the company chest.

    This is a requested feature, highly so. Just because some people do no have inventory issues does not mean that SE should be able to skirt around the issue and charge people for additional space. Taking in crafting, fishing, glamour, multiple class system the inventory space I can see the inventory system being extremely restrictive for those who are glamour happy or are primarily crafters/gatherers. There are people who pretty much only craft Mithrie Menethil is a well-known one.

    SE needs to find a way to reduce the need for inventory in the glamour system, slightly increase armory slots/inventory slots, or create an inventory for crafting materials/gathered materials/fishing lures and baits. We all ready pay a sub every month, asking for additional inventory which should cost next to no time to add into the game and the load on the servers minimal compared to the option for people to have 8 retainers with full inventories including a full equipment set on them.

    Stop telling SE that what they are doing is justified because it is not. Other games have given in-game only methods of increasing inventory alongside paid methods, WoW, FFXI, etc. SE needs to start following this example and not wall it entirely through cash methods. Keep retainers at 50:50 split, If you can have 8 total retainers, 4 are hired with gil, 4 with cash. 6 retainers, 3 with gil, 3 with cash. Just like how we have 2:2 right now.

    Sorry for the long post but SE has been dragging their feet on this for a long time and it is very reminiscent of the 'Eternal Bonding' bomb shell was that some of the features would be hidden behind a pay wall what, a week before drop? How is this different, Yoshi P has been saying for a while inventory has been a problem and a week before drop it turns out they have corrected it if you feel like giving them extra money.
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  6. #166
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onikimaru View Post
    Hate to break this to you pumpkin, but you haven't the slightest clue on what you're talking about. And to add to this, even though it's not going to get through to that thick head of yours. This game right here is not EVERY OTHER MMO, this game is final fantasy XIV!. You understand that?, there is a loooooot of items in this game and definitely not enough space for a large majority of these items.
    Honest question here, what developer in the right mind develops a storage system where they design it around being able to collect and store the majority of items in a game at a single time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onikimaru View Post
    Hate to break this to you pumpkin, but you haven't the slightest clue on what you're talking about. And to add to this, even though it's not going to get through to that thick head of yours. This game right here is not EVERY OTHER MMO, this game is final fantasy XIV!. You understand that?, there is a loooooot of items in this game and definitely not enough space for a large majority of these items.
    ^This

    Never had much of an inventory management issue in any of the many MMOs I played prior to this. That should tell you something. If it was as simple as Myth said, you wouldn't see so many complaints about storage.

    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    Honest question here, what developer in the right mind develops a storage system where they design it around being able to collect and store the majority of items in a game at a single time?
    Is this a serious question O.o?

    All the other MMOs I've played have either had sufficient storage for the items in the game, a "glamour log", or a one-time payment to unlock more storage rather than a subscription that SE is planning for retainers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onikimaru View Post
    Hate to break this to you pumpkin, but you haven't the slightest clue on what you're talking about. And to add to this, even though it's not going to get through to that thick head of yours. This game right here is not EVERY OTHER MMO, this game is final fantasy XIV!. You understand that?, there is a loooooot of items in this game and definitely not enough space for a large majority of these items.
    Only if you; like me hoard things and trust me i hoarddddd I hoard so badly. Not as badly as others but pretty badly and I don't even glamour that much in comparison to others. It's just a bad addiction of "Oh I'll SB this later *tosses gear into gear/glamour gear retainer*" Oh and to add to this one example of SB'ing...needless to say they are STILL in my retainer which I'm actually going to desyn.. someday.. *cough*

    "Oh I'll use this to craft this piece of furniture or craft this item later for gil! *tosses this mat into my crafter mats retainer then forgets about it 5 mins later*" and other similar situations. >_>;

    However like someone said, basically taking time out to clear what isn't needed or used anymore should help even just a bit. Heck I tried once and found ridiculous things.... like 1 brass ingot NQ... yes..... ONE..NQ...brass..ingot... inside my retainer. :x
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillia View Post
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    I suggested one feature a while back, my thread died quickly with few responses. I suggested a loot filter. There are so many junk items in game, I find myself often having to reserve inventory spaces for them just because of how often they find themselves in my inventory. Animal hide for example. I can delete it, shortly after, a random mob kill puts it right back.

    Having a trash feature to target specific types of items would be great too.

    SE really has too much clutter in this game for the amount of storage space. One of the problems has to go, my suggestion would help with one. Or they could just keep to the status quo and do the right thing with this choice and give us at least one free retainer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    ^This

    Never had much of an inventory management issue in any of the many MMOs I played prior to this. That should tell you something. If it was as simple as Myth said, you wouldn't see so many complaints about storage.



    Is this a serious question O.o?

    All the other MMOs I've played have either had sufficient storage for the items in the game, a "glamour log", or a one-time payment to unlock more storage rather than a subscription that SE is planning for retainers.
    It is a serious question, actually name one that actually caters to that, it is the fault of the players for wanting so many items, theres tons of items in a game like WOW and Rift, they have way more items then this game by a long shot but the desire to have so many items do not exist in those games but it does here?, but I have not played a game where the devs will cater to people hoarding items like no tomorrow.
    The current glamour system in this game actually has a nice market to it, the glamour system is a money maker for those that sell it.

    You need to answer this question, why should SE pay for more storage space on their servers to cater to the minority, a minority that mostly does not manage their inventory space, this is a very realistic scenario, most people do not hoard many types of items all the time, they think they will use it when they really don't.
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    Last edited by raelgun; 06-18-2015 at 02:19 AM.

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