Thank you for the crafting changes

[Zangetsu]

How can you expect crafts to control the game economy if they are too busy trying to find 20-30 items to make one piece of armor?

What happens when 10 of your LS members need full sets of gear to start working on Materia? " Oh hang on for 5 hours while i prepare parts to make all the gear." Ya, that won't fly. Then when people see all the sexy materia your LS mates are making they will come to you with tons of orders for gear. Then what do you do?! I bet then you will wish you had an easier crafting system so you can bang out gear in no time and be rolling in gil!

=P

[darkstarpoet1]

How can you expect crafts to control the game economy if they are too busy trying to find 20-30 items to make one piece of armor?

What happens when 10 of your LS members need full sets of gear to start working on Materia? " Oh hang on for 5 hours while i prepare parts to make all the gear." Ya, that won't fly. Then when people see all the sexy materia your LS mates are making they will come to you with tons of orders for gear. Then what do you do?! I bet then you will wish you had an easier crafting system so you can bang out gear in no time and be rolling in gil!

=P

no, i will do just like i have always done. i will get them done because i enjoy crafting. who are you to say people won't wait for you to make parts? most of the time they drop materials with me and tell me to get it done when i can and just get back with them when i am done. don't try to make assumptions that everyone would act like you would if you were having to wait in line.

what will you do if they being out new dungeons and it takes an hour to complete? are you going to help do them or are you gonna sit and complain it took too long?

the point was the ones that enjoy crafting enjoy it because of the complexity and the people hat like battle like it for their own reasons. you do not have full time crafters telling battle how they should gut their system to make it easier on them, but the ones that do battle want to do that to them.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

no, i will do just like i have always done. i will get them done because i enjoy crafting. who are you to say people won't wait for you to make parts? most of the time they drop materials with me and tell me to get it done when i can and just get back with them when i am done. don't try to make assumptions that everyone would act like you would if you were having to wait in line.

what will you do if they being out new dungeons and it takes an hour to complete? are you going to help do them or are you gonna sit and complain it took too long?

the point was the ones that enjoy crafting enjoy it because of the complexity and the people hat like battle like it for their own reasons. you do not have full time crafters telling battle how they should gut their system to make it easier on them, but the ones that do battle want to do that to them.

This update is not cut and dry, crafting is not just having recipes removed and/or changed. Like combat, it is getting a complete over haul, one that will take more then an update or two. This is just step one, simplifying ingredients, then they will go into upping the complexity and difficultly for later level crafts, along with integrating materia and improve gathering as well.

[MariyaShidou]

completely ignored the part where I said "made from scratch" buying anything from NPCs or ward is not scratch -.-

Yes, because the point is that one does not have to start from scratch. Just like the example of people complained most gears come from crafting, and the big news is you can buy it instead of crafting!

How can you expect crafts to control the game economy if they are too busy trying to find 20-30 items to make one piece of armor?

What happens when 10 of your LS members need full sets of gear to start working on Materia? " Oh hang on for 5 hours while i prepare parts to make all the gear." Ya, that won't fly. Then when people see all the sexy materia your LS mates are making they will come to you with tons of orders for gear. Then what do you do?! I bet then you will wish you had an easier crafting system so you can bang out gear in no time and be rolling in gil!

=P

As if there aren't enough R50 gears coming around already? People already stop making gears because the market is oversaturated, not because of the "complicated" parts. When there is demand, there will be supply.

[Zangetsu]

Yes, because the point is that one does not have to start from scratch. Just like the example of people complained most gears come from crafting, and the big news is you can buy it instead of crafting!



As if there aren't enough R50 gears coming around already? People already stop making gears because the market is oversaturated, not because of the "complicated" parts. When there is demand, there will be supply.

There wont be saturation of gear once thousands of people are turning them into Materia.

[Aeyis]

How can you expect crafts to control the game economy if they are too busy trying to find 20-30 items to make one piece of armor?

What happens when 10 of your LS members need full sets of gear to start working on Materia? " Oh hang on for 5 hours while i prepare parts to make all the gear." Ya, that won't fly. Then when people see all the sexy materia your LS mates are making they will come to you with tons of orders for gear. Then what do you do?! I bet then you will wish you had an easier crafting system so you can bang out gear in no time and be rolling in gil!

=P

You know how people tend to control an economy? By producing wanted items in mass.
You know the funny thing about most of the materials used in finished items?
They are made in quantity (3-12 being but an example range).
You want to know the best part? If you were to mass producing most finished items?
Every single craft after the first tends to take much less time since you just made most of the materials needed...


Moral of the story:
if you consider it to much time to make one item, okay theres a point there albeit a debatable one (value over easy of producing).
If your talking about about economy and selling however, go get some economic experience, either theoretical or in practice, because obv you dont know what your talking about.

Unless ofcourse you npced 11/12 of those straps you just made for your finished item, in that case i can understand how you would have the need to make new straps.