DEV REQUEST:DUEL/SPAR system

[Onikimaru]

Sigh..this thread. Ok duel/sparring enthusiasts, let me ask you this. If you were to duel a bard or black mage as ANYTHING what would happen?, better yet what are two tanks gonna do?, stand there and wack each other until one drops?, this is not like other MMO's it is more like a turn based game if anything.

[Yuri_Hyuga]

Sigh..this thread. Ok duel/sparring enthusiasts, let me ask you this. If you were to duel a bard or black mage as ANYTHING what would happen?, better yet what are two tanks gonna do?, stand there and wack each other until one drops?, this is not like other MMO's it is more like a turn based game if anything.

Doesn't matter. Duels aren't meant to be perfectly balanced or equal across-the-board.

I can say with confidence that I believe I could beat every class with my MNK easily except for MRD :/ hehe

Tanks can hold their own seriously well... so can any BLM who understands their CC potential & manipulating the DR. All jobs perform quite well if used correctly, truly.

[Onikimaru]

I can say with confidence that I believe I could beat every class with my MNK easily except for MRD :/ hehe

Exactly, but sorry to say, dragoon would destroy you as the DRG burst is way to strong for a monk. Again SE would have done this from the start if it were a good idea. It's just to much man power to do something like this when pretty much every duel is one sided. but hey, if they could change the way it works, specifically in dueling, i am all for it.

[CarmenSandiego]

Every single class in this game can hold their own against the next. You just need to adjust your play style and get gud. It's the same for PvE. But once again, we aren't asking for rebalancing, we simply want a duel feature. It doesn't have to reward anything. Take a look at any other MMO where there was a rewardless duel system, no one cared what class versed what, most examples didn't even require the duellers to be the same level but it was still fun. Absolutely harmless fun that won't impact the guy who doesn't like PvP. Causing "server lag" is just ridiculous considering people out there doing PvE are generating just as much. Do we ask people to stop doing hunts or fates? No, please continue to your hearts content! Play the game how you want to play it, we have raiders, crafters, gatherers, casuals, and even PvPers.

Side note: if duels were to be put into the game it may even encourage those people who don't like to PvP to participate in it because they have the opportunity to practice fighting another player before being thrown into a team based setting like Frontlines/wolves den. They can overcome some of the pressure and fear of under performing which is a big reason why many don't do it (Also true for raiding). This could even help the current lengthy queue issues by having more people want to get involved. We expect people to research and practice for Coil, why not pvp? I say bring it on, duels are great for so many reasons and the cons are very few and the ones listed in this thread don't even make much sense.

[LTEvil]

Guys if you read this from page one to the one you see the same recycled arguments against it. You can not argue with close minded people. Someone suggested a poll. Put it on Twitter if it isn't there already then post results after HW comes out because I'm sure these New frontline maps will be worthless to enticing active PvP after the freshness dissipates.

As far as a reason to not put it in. There isn't one. Reason to put it in? People want it. Resource argument? I understand. They added desynth that is nothing but fluff and rarely used outside of swimsuits. But I see no out cry about that. I'm confused. Btw you guys know you can turn off effects of other players? Its amazing I know. Seriously though. Let this die or bring a real argument up.

[Onikimaru]

Every single class in this game can hold their own against the next. You just need to adjust your play style and get gud. It's the same for PvE. But once again, we aren't asking for rebalancing, we simply want a duel feature

No not every class can hold it's own. A bard could just run away, black mages and summoners get cast interruptions, tanks basically have immortality with proper use of CD's. And as i said, why would they add this to the game when it causes more issues than it would solve?

[LTEvil]

No not every class can hold it's own. A bard could just run away, black mages and summoners get cast interruptions, tanks basically have immortality with proper use of CD's. And as i said, why would they add this to the game when it causes more issues than it would solve?

Serious question is this your first mmo? Please name me a mmo with balanced PvP that has the trinity system? I'll wait. Fact is there isn't one. The cool thing about duels it's for people who want to test themselves. If you want a fair fight play the same job as your opponent or better yet go play call of duty. Think of this more like a mini game than respectable PvP.

[Onikimaru]

Serious question is this your first mmo? Please name me a mmo with balanced PvP that has the trinity system? I'll wait. Fact is there isn't one. The cool thing about duels it's for people who want to test themselves. If you want a fair fight play the same job as your opponent or better yet go play call of duty. Think of this more like a mini game than respectable PvP.

AGAIN, why would they use dueling for something so trivial as practice for frontlines? or just pvp in general, and yes you're right about the unbalance in PvP in most MMO's but this isn't most MMO's, the classes here are based on team objective. If you haven't noticed that trend going through the main..story i don't know what else to tell you.

[LTEvil]

AGAIN, why would they use dueling for something so trivial as practice for frontlines? or just pvp in general, and yes you're right about the unbalance in PvP in most MMO's but this isn't most MMO's, the classes here are based on team objective. If you haven't noticed that trend going through the main..story i don't know what else to tell you.

Wait what? Most mmo is not about TEAM PLAY? Omg someone tell wow rift star wars tera eve ro eq and and you get it? Why would they add hunts for something as trivial as vanity And cute side things. Why add gold saucer. That's trivial right? Wait people asked for these things? How dare they ask for things like they pay to play...wait...yeah

[Gamer3427]

AGAIN, why would they use dueling for something so trivial as practice for frontlines?

I'd just like to isolate this part of your statement. A lot of the people asking for this, (myself included), don't even participate in the frontlines PvP. And out of all the others who want this that do participate in frontlines, most are asking for this for the purpose of having fun in one on one combat with friends or rivals, not as "practice" for the current PvP. Just because content has the same general classification of PvP or PvE doesn't mean that it's wanted for the same purposes. People don't run dungeons for the same reason they fish, though both would technically be classified as PvE since you are working against the computer in both situations......