so I got kicked today for...

[Lusavari]

If you want to safely Role Play without any worry of people getting upset, you can use /echo and only you will see the chat. Personally, I have no problem with Role Players, but I do hate macros that include chat. It's the way my attention span works. If I see movement in my chat log, I have to look, so text macros can get me or a party killed. That aside, The party should have at least given the OP a chance to change the macro before kicking him.

[Gamer3427]

There has to be more behind this reasoning, otherwise everyone else would've gotten kicked. I mean I remember you wanting to play as arcanist with a topaz carlbuncle. You could've been the outler on overall damage output that you did even less than the people that were dead.

I do still play as an Arcanist, and I do still use Topaz. Even so, my DPS was still well above half the other DPS in the party. My guess on the matter is that they simply assumed that my DPS was so much lower because of that, and didn't even consider that it was because half the alliance was dead that caused the failure to kill the hourglasses. I did manage to kill one of them solo while the other DPS were working on the other two in that instance, but we were too slow over all to kill the fourth.....

EDIT: I should say "well above half the other DPS, even with me spending most of my time reviving everyone"......

EDIT2: Either way, it seems to me that they simply wanted to blame someone for something, and I was kicked unjustly after having spent the entire fight trying to save the rest of the group.....

[Valkyrie-Amber]

and that's not even off Naruto.... that's off bleach :P

[RiceisNice]

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You're still not helping the overall situation though is what I'm saying. Maybe you wouldn't have been too slow if you had access to summoner abilties and used an actual dps pet. In the end when it boils down to that, you're a dps that's not dpsing. I mean you even know this and admitted that you'd run into problems, you should be expecting this sort of flank for playing an arcanist with topaz; I don't understand why you find the need to need to vent about that after getting kicked for purposely not pulling your weight.

You would've probably saved the group anyway if you were pulling your weight in damage to get those hourglasses down with the occasional raises (because a summoner can raise just as well as an arcanist) . The bottom line is that you're not more than likely not capable of so because you don't have the means to.

[Solaria_Luna]

This is off-topic, but related: How do you get the chat to show in the new channel/tab in chat? (I think I made one for /tell, but I couldn't get it working)

About the above post: What about SCH? (since they're the mostly healer counterpart to SMN)

[Reszo]

There's a lot of people that don't mind it and there are a lot who hate it, just depends who you get grouped with. I get into dungeons several times with RP macro users, I thinks it refreshing and fun/funny if it's used with those non spammable moves. I ran a dungeon with a BLM that would laugh every time he was about to flare spam it was funny. Everything with macros doesn't have to be serious and there's nothing stating that it should only be used for healer and tank moves like "eye for an eye", "resurrection". Like i said just depends who you get grouped with. But if they dont like it just relax on it with that particular party

[Gamer3427]

Words.

I'm honestly tired of trying to defend my DPS. I still do far more DPS in my current play style than most of the SMNs and BRDs I've seen, as well as a good portion of the NIN I'm constantly having to raise. You're assuming that I have the lowest DPS simply because of my role is part of the problem I'm getting at. I may have lower potential DPS than others, but in practice I put out more than most, because I take the time to learn and study my rotation, and put out full effort when implementing it, rather than the way most DPS play. I'm also consistently one of the last if not the last person alive when groups I'm in face a full party wipe. This is in no small part thanks to the defensive and healing buffs that my style offers me in comparison to others......

EDIT: My point in this is that I'm starting to get quite annoyed with people such as you that completely dismiss an idea because it's "not how it's done", without giving it a fair chance. The bottom line is that while I may end up having issues with content I've yet to try, so far with the content I have tried, I've seen very few SMNs who can outdo me in an actual run, and with the exception of maybe one or two, that is purely in burst DPS rather than consistent survivability and constant DPS throughout the run. If I do have issues in content later on, then I'll cross that bridge when I come to it......

About the above post: What about SCH? (since they're the mostly healer counterpart to SMN)

I do in fact use SCH as a secondary class when I'm running the DF on old dungeons to speed it up, or when I'm helping friends with their relics. But after trying to heal WoD with a bad group once. Never again.......

EDITING THIS IN HERE BECAUSE I'VE REACHED MY DAILY POST LIMIT:

the adds will do evil eye which will chunk your party if they don't die fast enough.[/B]

It wasn't the adds that were killing people. It was the Light/Dark switch, and the Doomgaze. We didn't even get the adds out before half the group was down......

[TruebladeNuke]

After taking the time to read the thread, I agree on two things from what the others have said:

1: If you report someone, DON'T tell them you did that.

2: If you've got macro chat speech for skills that only do damage and nothing else, best to use /echo for those macros.

I use macros myself, but the only ones that have sound indicators and speech to them are ones that de-buff enemies and/or buff the party in some way. (Rez macros in particular are quite popular) And even then, I tend to shift these skills around to either be regular actions or with macro sound depending on the parties I've been running into lately. I used to have Trick Attack and Protect with macro sounds for instance, but I've removed those lately. Trick Attack because I end up using it far more often than I thought and the macro sound for it was getting annoying even to me. Protect... because I kept having people take off on me without waiting for that 15% armor increase.

That said, I honestly don't have anything against RPing macro users, so long as it isn't a skill that gets spammed like there's no tomorrow... like Fast Blade. Some of the macros I've seen people use makes the journey funny for me. :P

[RiceisNice]

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See, this what I don't understand. You play like a scholar, but you don't want to queue as a scholar. You keep saying that you're the one pulling the group through, when chances are, you're also contributing to why the group is falling so behind in the first place; again using the first WoD boss as an example, the adds will do evil eye which will chunk your party if they don't die fast enough. I could be the last person alive in the party for all I care, it means jack shite if its because the fight is taking too long to finish because overall dps is low.

I can appreciate you trying to play the class differently, but it gets kind of frustrating when you keep defending yourself as this guy who does above-and-beyond to pull their group through. Don't victimize yourself and expect people to ostracize you or even kick you for something like this. I'm sorry but this is one of my biggest pet peeves when it comes to people.


tl;dr : If you're doing something that you know is going to annoy/go against people; Whether its going into a raid as a jobless class and playing inefficiently, or using RP macros after being told to stop, expect opposition. It's hard to sympathize with people when they knowingly/willingly do this.

[Kit-Kat]

That aside, The party should have at least given the OP a chance to change the macro before kicking him.

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The tank gets mad and says i need to turn it off and "saying this isn't naruto." I don't respond im playing the dungeon fine..."

OP: Problem here is you're not playing alone. It's fine if you want to RP, but doesn't mean everyone has/wants to. The same way you got the right to RP, they also have the right to kick you if whole party agrees and your playstyles aren't compatible. Macros annoy and/or distract some people, though in 4 players content it wouldn't hurt imo, there's not much going on. It is actually better leaving (or in this case, kicked) a party that doesn't suit your playstyle and look for a better one.