Shortage of tanks a myth - thoughts?

[Kuurei]

As Kosmos has stated earlier, the shortage of tanks (and healers) is both real and imagined.

The real part is that there are a lack of players willing to step into the role as tank (and/or healer). And I count myself among those numbers, mostly due to that I have zero desire to have to deal with lippy brats. And then you have those tanks (and healers) who don't make things better. Some are there simply for the shorter queue times. Hell, one time I was in WoD, one of the tanks was acting like a complete ass, stealing threat from the MT, intentionally doing a poor job at MTing, name-calling everyone in the raid. So there's that.



Even if the content were different, certain members of the community would still act like complete douche-canoes. Though I do agree that the Marauder/Warrior/Gladiator/Paladin quests haven't done a good job teaching the player how to tank.

Which is funny, because Healer quests do the opposite. Especially Cnj/Whm theirs even cover stance dance madness to an extent.

[MirielleLavandre]

Thanks for the replies all - and yep, I agree with Kosmos and the general sentiment here. I think I may have mis-named the thread, and I should've thrown 'in duty finder' in there, as I think that there actually is a shortage of tanks, but this shortage is only of tanks willing to do Duty Finder // I think many here have admitted to keeping to their own FC or friends to use their tanks and yes, this does lead to a shortage in Duty Finder if many won't queue up for it. My own personal 'straw that broke the camels back' was when I was verbally abused for not knowing the Yeti mechanics while running it on the first day it came out.... yes, the first day. And this from a BLM who did nothing but spam flare and didn't have ARC leveled high enough for Quelling... After that - yep, no more tanking except for friends -- it wasn't fun and I only play this game for fun

[Svalitz]

One of the things I'm actually worried about, is I main tank classes (plan to level DRK too)... but I will be taking almost a year off to travel in the fall.

When I come back, it's going to be a steep learning curve filled with a-holes yelling at me in DF dungeons.

Games should NOT be stressful like this. From one nerd to another guys, stop being such douchebags to each other! We're all here to have fun and play an ONLINE GAME. GAME. It's a GAME.

[Shyluv]

As healer main I also won't do DF stuff unless I know at least half of the party. Unless it's the 24 man raids. Those can be hell either way.

[X9Seryn9X]

I have mained as a tank in several MMO"a including this one. I have been reading a lot of this stuff lately and find it rather confusing. We as the player pay to play this game the way we want. If you want to tank but are too scared to do it just remember your paying 15 bucks a month. Doesn't matter what class you play as people are going to be rude about anything and everything. Sure getting berated blows as even I have had it happen. However, no one is forcing you to read those berating comments. There is a reporting tool for people who abuse vote kick for retarded reasons, use it. If you don't want to because your afraid you won't perform well enough then research your job/role so that you can. You shouldn't let anyone force you to or to not play whatever role it is you wish. This is just a game and it's one you pay for. Spend your money the way you want to.

[Seig345]

I get anxious as crazy when I tank. Healer is where I'm happiest. No anxiety what so ever. I feel bad if I let someone die, but for some reason, my confidence as a healer lets me shed any undue criticism off like it's nothin'. I give tanking a try every now and again; maybe some day I can learn to roll whether "dey hatin'" or not.

[lvlagmarink]

Many, many people I know have at least 1 tank classes leveled to 50 and at at least i100 with the UAT 110 weapon -- plenty enough for everything save maybe some SCoB or FCoB - definitely enough for experts and everything else. The thing is - -all of these people, myself included, don't set foot in DF and only use our tanks to help our friends and FC or LS mates who may need tanks. Even people who main tank jobs often only do so for their FC.

That's because most of players who has side tank class but dont actually play it level it from FATE despite the almost instant queue tanks could have.. That's why most ellitist are against the existance of fate because it brings "lazy" players to just grind exp blindfolded..
I used to belong to an FC with around 20 members and 2 social LS with 50-60 active members with a static LS. While what you wrote here are mostly true, the players who actually never set foot on DF and only rely on FC/LS members would create toxic behaviour since they would always compare how someone from their LS/FC to those random who these toxic players less care about and actually are those people who are responsible for abusing tanks and healers..

Now as i write this.. This has basically come from my side of story when it's almost everyday the LS/FC players give lots of complains about this random tanks or healers who are performing bad(in their eyes) in LS or FC chat.. While in some cases even though the random tend to play good or just simply having different strategy, these toxic players would blame them simply because they areart of random/strangers..

PS: I am one of those tank/healer/DPS who is being leeched by those dps from LS and FC simply because i can use the holy trinity and dont bother going into any instances..

[MicahZerrshia]

This is a GAME. A game that is mean to be ENJOYED.

True, however just because you enjoy pulling 2 mobs doesn't mean a dps enjoys it. Whose enjoyment matters more? Obviously you believe yours and that mentality is the true elitest mentality that everyone thinks only the highest ilvl'd ppl can have. Sorry but its mostly players like this guy.

If people want to speed through everything so that they can show off how giant their Epeen is

It's not about being epeen, its about having to run a dungeon 60 times to get a drop and not wanting to effectively double or triple the amount of time the dungeon takes, and don't talk pf cause I have tried, you cannot form a pf pt for zodiac drop runs. No one wants to join.

All this talk about abused tanks just irritates me. The tanks I usually encounter in df pts think that they have the only opinion that matters. If they want to wear lvl 25 gear in a lvl 40+ raid we are supposed to adjust accordingly. If they want to take 2 minutes to mark 3 mobs, we need to wait, if they want to only attack one mob and no do their job by flashing or rotating rargets, we need to avoid anything that could possibly pull agro from anything other than the one single solitary mob the tank is focused on. And don't even get me started on the tanks who WALK instead of moving at the default pace because of RP or just because they wanna.

There are abusive dps but there are also abusing and extremely lazy tanks who have the mentality that they can do whatever they want cause they wont be kicked. The road goes 2 ways so stop blaming everyone else and maybe check your own attitude.

[Nutz]

I must have some amazing luck. I believe everyone about being treated poorly and whatnot, but it's just never been my experience. I've had 2 healers rage quit for being unable to heal me, even though nobody even blamed them for it. The first time I thought it might be my fault, but the replacement was a lesser geared healer who did a much better job, so I suppose it was just one of those odd cases of a bad player getting mad at others for their own incompetence.

Usually the DPS players are between fine and great. Every now and then I get thrown for a loop when both DPS have 5k+ hp but mobs stay alive way too long and I realize that they're just terrible but usually you can tell how things will go right away.

I may even be inclined to play WAR more full time given the experiences that I've had. It's a lot less auto-pilot than the DPS I'm used to, which can be good or bad, but it's nice rolling in commendations and not searching for things to do during the long downtime.

[Cakekizy]

My issue is with tanks that wanna skip as much of a dungeon as possible. I sit in queue for a hour just to have tank try and kill my xp gain because they in a bloody hurry.