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    Vandril's Avatar
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    Ter'vin Valash
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    Diabolos
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    While this is true, it's also true that I don't need to stay at their OP to be doing this. I once had nearly an entire party running around looking for me, that was beautiful, but they were doing so with me hidden, I went up to mid and let them continue running around spamming Miasma trying to find me. What did I do when I was at mid on their side? Instantly locate someone with Battle High/Fever, Trick Attack > Stun > Limit Break and killed them instantly. Follow that up with a Ill Wind (which I swear I never see any other Ninjas using...) and Sprint and I got out safely. One third of their team was looking for me at their OP, another third was Silenced and could do nothing, and I'd just killed someone with Battle Fever. I may have been able to farm kills better had I stayed at their OP, but I think going to mid contributed far more to my team than anything else.
    Now that's the kind of strategy I'm talking about.

    I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees the point in doing such things. It's hilarious watching people run around like chickens without heads while spamming AoEs to find me, knowing they'll never find me because I've already left for where I'll be more useful atm.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xenosan View Post
    I'm not trying to convince yall to do otherwise since it's your preference, but camping can't be sold as some "tactical" (/airquotes emote) strategy or secret to success. Doing what you enjoy is one thing, but matches are won and loss up top. This crap was doubly irritating when Ninja was first released and the WoW-Rogue inspired lolnins started stalking enemy flags with /hide. Cool story bro but unless they leave or you try to make something happen, you're no different than an AFK bot.

    Jumper camping is bush-league. People do it because they can't handle the heat up top, or just don't care enough about getting the win. whew
    Now, see, this is just wrong. A tactical play is exactly what camping is - when done right. Sure, games are won and lost in mid. And yes, many campers are people who can't "handle the heat" in mid. But no, that does not mean camping is not extremely useful and it does not mean all campers are doing it for that reason. Cutting off reinforcements with a smaller force to buy time is a crucial strategy in nearly every war/wargame in existence. You can claim that it's not legitimate strategy, but it is.

    Of course, there are certainly other things a camper could be doing rather than camping. But the difference in awareness of a PvPer and a good PvPer is the difference in knowing to do only one thing and knowing how to do what you need to do when you need to do it. There are times when camping is not beneficial. There are also times when it is extremely beneficial.
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    Last edited by Vandril; 06-08-2015 at 03:42 AM.