Character Height of Female Miqo'te and Au Ra

[Samcaesar]

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Isn't there an issue with a lot of people not being able to even fit underneath doorframes and they're like 180 cm in Japan, certainly enough to warrant a few jokes online at least.
You sure? I'm not really sure how the various races all resemble certain Japanese aesthetic ideals and archetypes, so I wouldn't mind if you went more in depth.

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Understandable, but the OP, and myself, are tall and I'd love a super tall girl Au Ra, we don't have that option though.

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Lalafell are meant to be small though (And it's debatable with the Auri girls, but still you can get the men super tall, why not the girls as well?). It's not like height isn't also pretty key in the races appearance. What if they like scaled folks and also like kind of tall races? It's not like they're asking all races to go from 1" to 10', just that the men and women of each race can get as tall or short as each other (funnily enough, like the Lalafell).

I am more worried about being able to customize the horns of the Au Ra rather than the height...

I'm pretty worried about both, mind extending a bit of sympathies?

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There's tall girls though who might want to look like cat girls or scaled gals, height and looks (As they kind of are apart of the same thing) don't have to be competing factors. It is different because Lalafell are made to be small folks. The Miqo'te and Au Ra on the other hand literally have a 1 inch height difference, so it's not really a good argument to say that the height differences make them unique.

[Kathryn]

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Thing is, Tall race's are not as popular as you may think, I think with this route they have gone safe and given you both option though it be gender locked but I'm not sure if you have noticed but Big and Tall races are not so popular in the game at the moment as it is, also if they were made as tall as the males I know it would put me off playing it personally :/

[Samcaesar]

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Lots of things in this game aren't popular. Long grinding questlines to get powerful glowy weapons, dealing with duty finder to get poetics, doing actually challenging content (Looking at you Steps of Faith til you were dumbed down), honestly I'm not sure if T13 is all that popular, yet SE has them (And will probably continue to make them). It's not that we're asking for them to be 1:1, but just give Auri girls the option to be as tall as the men are (And also allow the men to be as short as the girls are), maybe made the "Generic Xaela" tall and the "Generic Raen" tall and short respectively and just have the height options going from the miniscule 4'8 to a solid 7'3 would be fine, it might look awkward, but I'm sure with some model tweaks as the heights go up and down they could fix it (I mean or ignore it model tweaks, it's not like girl Roegadyn look bad scaling an entire foot in height).

Something I've been thinking about, SE probably knew how popular men highlanders and Roegadyn were from 1.0, so why even bother making the girls for those races, I doubt their popularity has changed that much. It's a matter or what SE ought to do to make the game appeal to a wider audience, as trimming the fat models in business aren't really that smart, least you end up with a TERA and their Elin issue.

[Onikimaru]

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Of course i sympathize, i'm all for more character customization, but this "issue" is so so so SO small compared to other things. Like they told us the horns would be completely customizable among other things. I mean a couple inches?, CM?. Come on this is hardly worth the devs attention D:

[kyuven]

You sure? I'm not really sure how the various races all resemble certain Japanese aesthetic ideals and archetypes, so I wouldn't mind if you went more in depth.

The Miqo'te and Au Ra I already went into a bit so I'll only cover the male miqo'te:
He's the "rugged, but short" type. The dashing rogue quick on his feet. Kind of a Miyamoto Musashi type. Kikuchiyo from Seven Samurai is a lot like this as well.
Midlander Hyur of both genders are the "base," the normal. Nothing much here. The men aren't too masculine and the women aren't too cute.
Highlander males are the "very masculine" type. These are the guys you see working out, etc. etc. They're kind of a universal ideal (minus the eyebrow thing) due to "tall and strong" being positive traits worldwide.
Highlander and Roe females are an interesting case. See, they're actually NOT a sort of feminine ideal in Japanese culture. Women don't normally have extremely well-built or tall physiques, with even the most athletic Japanese woman i've seen in my life bearing more of a resemblance to Midlander proportions. But they're a foreign ideal, and the 2.0 development team wisely realized the whole "no Highlander and Roe women" thing was nonsensical, so they got added.
Elezen males are the "tall and handsome" archetype. The brooding foreigner/pretty boy, more or less. They're exotic and unique, but they're also LEAN, which is an incredibly common trait and ideal in Japanese males.
Elezen females evoke the "smart older sister/mother" archetype. There's a reason one of the most notable female elezen in the game is a "motherly" character. They're exceptionally tall, but still rather lean. Again, for the ideals here the height should be taken out of the equation along with the ears.
Roegadyn males are the ULTIMATE MAN MEAT. There's always someone who finds that type attractive. The big, tall, boisterous bruiser type. Men want to be strong like him, and most straight women won't say no to the ripped musculature.
Lalafell are "cute." Japan is big on cute. Cute things are to be protected and cherished.
Which is why the fact that there are so many Lalafell antagonists in this game is incredibly hilarious.

Also yes being over about 185 cm is rough in Japan. Seriously that's the maximum height for a lot of things, and when you're that tall it becomes more practical to grab the bar the straps in the subway are attached to rather than the handles, for example.

[Samcaesar]

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They said lots of things, I personally want the girl Au Ra to go up to 7'3 which is 2 feet :P Even then, the max height OP wants is 6 more inches! They told us Au Ra would be most customizable race, which would include a lot of things, height and horns included! Both are relatively minor depending on perspective, and let's be honest, SE ain't gonna do either of them, so let's at least complain together, alright? <3

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That really seems to be just archetypes in general though, look at Gnomes, Elves, Dwarfs, and Humans in WoW (Or LotR or heck DAO if you go dwarf, Elf, Qunari, and Human), a "Small and cute" race, "Tall and Handsome", "Thick" (Though short as well they're still pretty darn man meaty) race, and a "Normal" race respectively

[kyuven]

That really seems to be just archetypes in general though, look at Gnomes, Elves, Dwarfs, and Humans in WoW (Or LotR or heck DAO if you go dwarf, Elf, Qunari, and Human), a "Small and cute" race, "Tall and Handsome", "Thick" (Though short as well they're still pretty darn man meaty) race, and a "Normal" race respectively

Well yeah, because we ARE basically the same species after all. There's always going to be similarities, since things like physical fitness are important across our entire species.
The primary difference, though, is the Japanese preference for "cute" and "lean." Something you don't see a lot in American games.
Look at WoW for example: Orcs? Beefcake. Tauren? Don't make me make the pun. Trolls? Gangly and unattractive. Male Draenei? Beef. Even their elves are beefy.
But here? We have ONE beefy race, with the subrace meant to be "beefy-ish" looking like a "normal" human in many other games. Not a coincidence.

[Onikimaru]

so let's at least complain together, alright? <3

FIIINEEE. MORE HEIGHT FOR AU RA!. Happy?

[Felis]

Lalafell are meant to be small though (And it's debatable with the Auri girls, but still you can get the men super tall, why not the girls as well?).

Maybe because also the female Au Ra are meant to be around the size of female Miqo'te.
Ask the devs.

If the devs decisions about the size range of 1 race is debatable, then why not also the decisons about the size range of the other races?
Why not demand an overhaul of the sizes for all races, with a player poll how big each race should be? Because if the players don't like it, it should get changed, regardless of the devs design choice.

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