Character Height of Female Miqo'te and Au Ra

[kyuven]

You sure? I'm not really sure how the various races all resemble certain Japanese aesthetic ideals and archetypes, so I wouldn't mind if you went more in depth.

The Miqo'te and Au Ra I already went into a bit so I'll only cover the male miqo'te:
He's the "rugged, but short" type. The dashing rogue quick on his feet. Kind of a Miyamoto Musashi type. Kikuchiyo from Seven Samurai is a lot like this as well.
Midlander Hyur of both genders are the "base," the normal. Nothing much here. The men aren't too masculine and the women aren't too cute.
Highlander males are the "very masculine" type. These are the guys you see working out, etc. etc. They're kind of a universal ideal (minus the eyebrow thing) due to "tall and strong" being positive traits worldwide.
Highlander and Roe females are an interesting case. See, they're actually NOT a sort of feminine ideal in Japanese culture. Women don't normally have extremely well-built or tall physiques, with even the most athletic Japanese woman i've seen in my life bearing more of a resemblance to Midlander proportions. But they're a foreign ideal, and the 2.0 development team wisely realized the whole "no Highlander and Roe women" thing was nonsensical, so they got added.
Elezen males are the "tall and handsome" archetype. The brooding foreigner/pretty boy, more or less. They're exotic and unique, but they're also LEAN, which is an incredibly common trait and ideal in Japanese males.
Elezen females evoke the "smart older sister/mother" archetype. There's a reason one of the most notable female elezen in the game is a "motherly" character. They're exceptionally tall, but still rather lean. Again, for the ideals here the height should be taken out of the equation along with the ears.
Roegadyn males are the ULTIMATE MAN MEAT. There's always someone who finds that type attractive. The big, tall, boisterous bruiser type. Men want to be strong like him, and most straight women won't say no to the ripped musculature.
Lalafell are "cute." Japan is big on cute. Cute things are to be protected and cherished.
Which is why the fact that there are so many Lalafell antagonists in this game is incredibly hilarious.

Also yes being over about 185 cm is rough in Japan. Seriously that's the maximum height for a lot of things, and when you're that tall it becomes more practical to grab the bar the straps in the subway are attached to rather than the handles, for example.

[Samcaesar]

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They said lots of things, I personally want the girl Au Ra to go up to 7'3 which is 2 feet :P Even then, the max height OP wants is 6 more inches! They told us Au Ra would be most customizable race, which would include a lot of things, height and horns included! Both are relatively minor depending on perspective, and let's be honest, SE ain't gonna do either of them, so let's at least complain together, alright? <3

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That really seems to be just archetypes in general though, look at Gnomes, Elves, Dwarfs, and Humans in WoW (Or LotR or heck DAO if you go dwarf, Elf, Qunari, and Human), a "Small and cute" race, "Tall and Handsome", "Thick" (Though short as well they're still pretty darn man meaty) race, and a "Normal" race respectively

[kyuven]

That really seems to be just archetypes in general though, look at Gnomes, Elves, Dwarfs, and Humans in WoW (Or LotR or heck DAO if you go dwarf, Elf, Qunari, and Human), a "Small and cute" race, "Tall and Handsome", "Thick" (Though short as well they're still pretty darn man meaty) race, and a "Normal" race respectively

Well yeah, because we ARE basically the same species after all. There's always going to be similarities, since things like physical fitness are important across our entire species.
The primary difference, though, is the Japanese preference for "cute" and "lean." Something you don't see a lot in American games.
Look at WoW for example: Orcs? Beefcake. Tauren? Don't make me make the pun. Trolls? Gangly and unattractive. Male Draenei? Beef. Even their elves are beefy.
But here? We have ONE beefy race, with the subrace meant to be "beefy-ish" looking like a "normal" human in many other games. Not a coincidence.

[Felis]

Lalafell are meant to be small though (And it's debatable with the Auri girls, but still you can get the men super tall, why not the girls as well?).

Maybe because also the female Au Ra are meant to be around the size of female Miqo'te.
Ask the devs.

If the devs decisions about the size range of 1 race is debatable, then why not also the decisons about the size range of the other races?
Why not demand an overhaul of the sizes for all races, with a player poll how big each race should be? Because if the players don't like it, it should get changed, regardless of the devs design choice.

/sarcasm

[Wilhem]

To take a more "real world" angle on that, genetic is a b*tch ^^.

[Catwho]

I'm a maxed out height female Mi'quote. Yeah, I'm not as tall as the other races, but I positively TOWER over all the other Mi'quote gals who went for the shorter heights when we're in a group. It's really funny to see.

[Averax]

I wish the male Au ra could be shorter than 6'4.

[Onikimaru]

so let's at least complain together, alright? <3

FIIINEEE. MORE HEIGHT FOR AU RA!. Happy?

[Samcaesar]

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Erm, Elves in the game are hardly "Beefy" in any game, heck they're normally lithe and effeminate (Look at the western history of elves, specifically Tolkien and the way he portrays the beauty of elves as an emphases in LotR), western or eastern. Heck the male Bloodelves are pretty darn effeminate, Blizzard just has more of a focus on making more "beefy" races, considering that was the Hordes primary focus (Beefy and gruff races).

Except the only guys that are "cute" are Lalafell (And maybe one face on Elezen and Midlanders) and one race is lean, Elezen. The other men range from general to super muscular.

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They gave an answer, and it was "Bigger races just aren't popular" aaaand.. They proceed to create the male Au Ra which defy that approach entirely, which shows it was just a generic response for someone who asks that question and they wanted to make the men look like an actual race while the girl Au Ra look like a rehashed Miqo'te (Ie, "A look that would make you want to protect them)

Because... Again SE's focus of the game, and something they love to tout, is "We're here for the fans", which means all fans, not just some majority that would be fine with Miqo'te 3.0 with the next expansion. Note how that's literally how feedback works in these sorts of games, and it's hardly difficult of SE to increase the size options for the Au Ra. Don't be so patronizing.

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This is a game with options however, anything we can't do lies on SE's responsibility to add (Or give a reasonable justification on why "Changing the height slider to allow for more diverse options" is something that would drive people away from making Au Ra or Miqo'te). Plus it's kind of bad reasoning, considering according to the OP and I's genetics (And plenty of other women) we're just as tall as guys.

Seriously, how would you guys feel if you were desperate for another smaller race and this was another taller race added after the Devs promised a wide amount of customization options? Think a little bit about how others feel, we're not asking for the girl Au Ra and Miqo'te be locked at 9', just actually allow the height to scale with the men's (And vise versa).

FIIINEEE. MORE HEIGHT FOR AU RA!. Happy?

Yes <3 More horns, separate the horns form the face, for both Au Ra and more height for the girl's SE!

[Novaura]

I have a Miqo'te myself and even though the tallest a Male Miqo'te can be is 5' 8", which is much shorter than my real life height of 6' 4", it doesn't bother me at all because I chose to play as a Miqo'te because of the game lore surrounding it.