Dedicated Thread for Patch 2.55 Story Discussion/Spoilers

[Aeyis]

I would very much like to have an official response to this.

Oh god. I would probably get banned if I gave the rather correct response here..against the hypocrisy in the morales of a certain country.

So in light of that ill suffice with saying that lalafells are not children. Nor based on the context can you in any form consider this particular lalafel to act as a child.

[Naamah]

Oh god. I would probably get banned if I gave the rather correct response here..against the hypocrisy in the morales of a certain country.

So in light of that ill suffice with saying that lalafells are not children. Nor based on the context can you in any form consider this particular lalafel to act as a child.

I'm not sure which country you are referring to, so I guess it's not in the EU.
As a European citizen I believe that not letting the depiction of violence against children become an all too common phenomenon in gaming is not hypocrisy, it's common sense.
Like I said before, I know that lore wise Lallafel don't look their age, but in all honesty, thats not the first thing that comes in mind when I seeing the Sultana's deathscene.
It's still the image of something that looks like a little girl choking to death.

Nanamo is in her 20s. Many Lalafell act in a childlike manner.

However from a story position Nanamo's assassination was necessary. Firstly she wasn't just resigning. Her action would have seriously undermined the power of the Monetarists. Secondly, this whole thing was a power play not just to remove her but to remove the Warrior of Light as well.

Its supposed to be shocking and horrifying because its an evil act and honestly an actuate depiction of anyone dying from choking to death on poison would be disturbing.

I still fail to see how her resignation would have negatively affected the Monetarists, as she was openly opposing them (even if it was without success). The second part of what you said, about getting rid of the player, makes sense though, especially since it also ruins the scions, and completely messes up the Immortal Flames

[Enkidoh]

I still fail to see how her resignation would have negatively affected the Monetarists, as she was openly opposing them (even if it was without success). The second part of what you said, about getting rid of the player, makes sense though, especially since it also ruins the scions, and completely messes up the Immortal Flames

Belhi has it correct -

Nanamo was not just going to abdicate and abolish the monarchy completely, she was also going to abolish the Syndicate as well who wielded the true power in Ul'dah, in favour of a (presumably democratically elected) republic, meaning both Lolorito and Teledji would have been the big losers (along with their wealthy colleagues). Hence the assassination - it removed that final annoying (in their eyes) stubborn thorn in their side to total control of Ul'dah while maintaining their status quo. It was basically a power struggle, which sadly Nanamo and the Royalists lost.

Unfortunately for us though, we were kind of dragged into it.

[Kikoten]

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Nanamo's actual age on the other hand is unknown, especially since she has to act mature because of her role, but a. she looks like a child ( she even has pigtails) b. she sometimes displays the emotions of one (bursting out in tears, running into Raubahns arms) c. she still sleeps with her plush toys for gods' sake!
Contrary to what most people assume about the female gender, I'm not ridiculously sensitive or even fond of children, but Nanamo's death scene is as disturbing as the image of a little girl choking to death actually is. To make matters worse, it was a largely unnecessary act of violence, as she was about to resign from her position anyway.
I would very much like to have an official response to this.

I don't know why, but something about this post makes me want to rage at you.

Evil knows no bounds. I'm sorry that you think the Sultana was a child.

[Naamah]

I don't know why, but something about this post makes me want to rage at you.

Evil knows no bounds. I'm sorry that you think the Sultana was a child.

Perhaps you want to rage at me because you didn't understand what I am saying?
Perhaps the fault lies with my choice of words, but I've already clarified what I am trying to say a few posts above yours.
Here we go again in case you missed it:

Like I said before, I know that lore wise Lallafel don't look their age, but in all honesty, thats not the first thing that comes in mind when seeing the Sultana's deathscene.
It's still the image of something that looks like a little girl choking to death.

In any case, thanks for the explanation Enkidoh

[Kikoten]

I think I know why I wanted to rage at you. It was the fact that you wanted an official response (from SE, I'm assuming) as to why they killed(?) a Lalafellin NPC the way they did.

EDIT: To add to my previous response, SE doesn't owe anybody an explanation for writing their story the way they do. Is it infuriating that such a loved character was killed(?) the way she was? Yes. Did she deserve it? No, unless you're of the Monetarist mindset. Should she have been written out of the story differently, simply because she resembles a child? I don't think so. The fact of the matter is she's dead(?). It's not like she was tortured to death in front of her loved ones. She died(?) in a matter of seconds. If anything, that's merciful.

On top of that, SE (SquareSoft at the time) killing childlike characters is nothing new. Remember Vivi? He actually WAS a child, and look how he ended up. He didn't choke to death, but SE still killed a child character.

[MidnightS]

Y'know, it may just be current real life events influencing me, but I have a hard time believing that Ul'dah transforming into a democracy would have reduced the monetarist's power at all.

[TitaniaZero]

Well... it might be easy to explain. Or not.

The Monetarists lose power, they are kicked out from all governmental practices. Contrary: They change their names and become one of who knows how many political parties in the new Ul'dah Democracy.

[Naamah]

@Kikoten

So you are basically angry because I said I would like to hear what the devs think on the matter? Because as far as I know, I never demanded anything nor did I claim anyone owes me anything.
Please stop accusing me of things I never said, in order to justify your ''rage''.

@MidnightS:

I couldn't agree more. Democracy and capitalism go together, at least in real life. Not so sure about how politics in a fantasy universe work though.

[Kikoten]

@Kikoten

So you are basically angry because I said I would like to hear what the devs think on the matter? Because as far as I know, I never demanded anything nor did I claim anyone owes me anything.
Please stop accusing me of things I never said, in order to justify your ''rage''.

Hey, at least I didn't rage at you. I only said I wanted to.