RIP Bard

[Lemuria]

..And back to disappointment. A 25% increase is very weak considering we're taking longer to fire and losing auto attacks. Overall DPS would be cut by more than that on the 'cast' times alone. I don't think I'll be using Wanderer's Minuet if that's all it provides.

I said before I'd wait until the numbers before I passed judgment, and here it is. Thanks SE, but I'd rather keep my mobility and auto-attacks. I'll do more damage overall.

[Viridiana]

I said before I'd wait until the numbers before I passed judgment, and here it is.

No, here it isn't. You still don't know what the other abilities only available under WM provide, nor how current oGCD abilities will interact with it.

[Lemuria]

No, here it isn't. You still don't know what the other abilities only available under WM provide, nor how current oGCD abilities will interact with it.

Sorry, but unless those new skills are godly powerful, it's not going to make up for the cast times and loss of auto-attacks. A 25% damage boost just doesn't cover the difference in speed.

[kirk]

Sorry, but unless those new skills are godly powerful, it's not going to make up for the cast times and loss of auto-attacks. A 25% damage boost just doesn't cover the difference in speed.

Yeah unfortunately 25% is low i remember someone saying (not on the forums) that it would need to be 50% for a real difference in dps but does not mean WM is useless just... Better then what i thought it would be (10%)

[RiceisNice]

Sorry, but unless those new skills are godly powerful, it's not going to make up for the cast times and loss of auto-attacks. A 25% damage boost just doesn't cover the difference in speed.

Cast times won't slow down our weapon skill usage, unless for some reason its longer than our GCD.

On the areas though, the DoT refreshing would need to have a good amount of potency because we're going to be missing out on the intial potency hits from both bites, and bloodletter oGCD.

[EZ5902]

..And back to disappointment. A 25% increase is very weak considering we're taking longer to fire and losing auto attacks.

It was only a matter of time before bards started whinging.......

[Lemuria]

It was only a matter of time before bards started whinging.......

You're a bard yourself. Join in the chorus, you'll feel a lot better to get those frustrations out in the open instead of pretending everything is wonderful. There's only so much saccharine sweetness you can sup before you start feeling ill.

[Viridiana]

You're a bard yourself. Join in the chorus, you'll feel a lot better to get those frustrations out in the open instead of pretending everything is wonderful. There's only so much saccharine sweetness you can sup before you start feeling ill.

And there are only so many conclusions you can jump to before you miss and smack your face into a wall. >_>

[Meleoffs]

You're a bard yourself. Join in the chorus, you'll feel a lot better to get those frustrations out in the open instead of pretending everything is wonderful. There's only so much saccharine sweetness you can sup before you start feeling ill.

And when you start seeing those brds that actually realize this is a MASSIVE buff doing 700-800 dps, and you're only doing 500 you'll realize how stupid you sound.

[Felessan]

So what "The Wanderer's Minuet" does is give a 20% buff to ablilites eg "Straght Shot" and other but add a buff timer and you cant move, right?

You can move, but not too far. You have 1.5 sec casting time on main abilities (out of 2.5 sec GCD) - its much better than what mages have, but limits unlimited movement bards had before.
Besides 20% straight buff that somewhat offset with loss of autoattack, Minuet also unlocks very powerful abilities that are not usable otherwise - semi-ofcd attack with 240 potency, dots prolongation and the most powerful bard's attack .