RIP Bard

[kyuven]

"TP please bard."
"STFU MY DPS NUMBERS!!"
"Ballad please bard..."
"STFU MY DPS NUMBERS!!"

Please look forward to it.

You can use other songs while under the effect of Wanderer's Minuet, Yoshi-P said this directly.
Though that's not gonna stop people from being stupid...
All i can say is BRDs should learn to play BLM or SMN at this point to get a feel for how to deal with Wanderer's Minuet.

[Rose-Wild]

One thing is saying that we would sacrifice some mobility for extra dps and another thing is saying we would want to become casters.

We could get the buff without forcing us to cast... and that would be way more natural with our skills like barrage and bloodletter.

[Arkenne]

But isnt Minuet something meant to work like a stance dance?
Like, need to move? Turn Minuet off to keep attacking.
No need to move? Turn Minuet on to push DPS up.

Its not like BRD need to stop attacking at any moment except when casting the songs :/

[Edellis]

This is awesome. One of the main things that made me stray away from endgame BRD is how straightforward it is. There was no resource to manage or anything. This is just the kind of mechanic that makes me interested in playing again.

I almost feel like BRD should have worked that way to begin with. It's sort of like a "Focus" stance. It'd make sense for a ranged to be way more effective when, you know, it doesn't have to run around.

[CGMidlander]

This is awesome. One of the main things that made me stray away from endgame BRD is how straightforward it is. There was no resource to manage or anything. This is just the kind of mechanic that makes me interested in playing again.

I almost feel like BRD should have worked that way to begin with. It's sort of like a "Focus" stance. It'd make sense for a ranged to be way more effective when, you know, it doesn't have to run around.

Straight Shot is a damage buff that needs to be kept up, much like Huton, Heavy Thrust, Maim, Greased Lightning...etc.

Bards have 2 dots that need to be kept up, just like the melee DPS classes.

Bards also have to Invigorate like the melee DPS classes.

What resource management does Bard lack?

[Edellis]

Straight Shot is a damage buff that needs to be kept up, much like Huton, Heavy Thrust, Maim, Greased Lightning...etc.

Bards have 2 dots that need to be kept up, just like the melee DPS classes.

Bards also have to Invigorate like the melee DPS classes.

What resource management does Bard lack?

Those aren't resources, they're buffs and DOTs. There's no way to "mess up" anything Bard does, worse case scenario, your DPS drops if you use them sub-optimally. It's not like you're going to fail a DPS check because of any of this -- just pop all CDs at once 90% of the time you'll be fine. Bards don't directly benefit from MP or their songs, other classes do. This is fun but it's also not very engaging, since outside of ballad, the BRD isn't sacrificing anything. And even then, it's a completely passive sacrifice, nothing changes from your point of view.

This new stance is the first time Bard actually has to think about an ability before they press the button, and it makes a very noticeable sacrifice.

The majority of BRD's difficulty for me seems to come from the fact the game doesn't explicitly tell you when you gain a bloodletter proc, and i guess that's just to stop them from just being 100% ezmode. BRD really just feels like a parse machine more than anything.

[Maero]

One thing is for certain, many more lol Bards will exist.
Some who have no experience with cast time and such.
And true also 99% of the time i out dps other Bards with Ballad up and they have no songs up at all. There exists bad players in every class really.
Minuet sounds interesting to me

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

The question was raised today by a friend (didn't see if it's been asked already): with Minuet up, I know we lose the charge ability/buff while moving and no auto attack, but will we still be able to just attack like normal, or not at all?

If possible, would one of the community reps please clarify this?

[otarolgam]

What I'd like to see is a bit of flexibility with this new song.

So, you put it up. What I'd like to see happen is that the song stay up, even if you move... You just lose the charge.

So, You're about to use Heavy Shot and it starts charging, but an AoE comes and you have to move.

You move, but the Heavy Shot goes off without the extra damage.

That'd be nice and flexible for me.

[Kat_Manx]

The sole reason I play Bard is because it's the only job that can freely move around while doing it's job.

If this is some extra thing that I can decide if I will use or not..cool.

If it undeniably makes you better than a Bard that DOESN'T use this skill and everyone will get mad at me for not using it then.. I guess I don't have a main job anymore. Maybe Botanist. /sigh..