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  1. #1331
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ossom View Post
    Heres some more info from one of the journalist. I asked him a few questions to clarify.
    http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...stream/crldag0

    From the sounds of things. The new abilites help manage the TP situation allowing for Skill Speed builds, and allowing us to not have such a horrible start up time after transitions. Other than that I don't really like our new skills. In fact I am extremely against a lot of what we get, I would take a buffed Invigorate and a skill that grants GL or increments our GL count by 1 any day over what we are given. But of course this is with the limited information I have obtained so I will definitely be going into EA with an open and optimistic mind. Having to raid on 3.0 For the next few months though has me worried compared to how much I've fallen in love with the new SMN and BLM skills, and even Astro.
    I'm the opposite, I'm quite excited about what has been talked about so far. Losing GL certainly sucks especially when you don't have PB, but being able to effectively start at GL1 and get DK up your next attack is good. Add that into being able to consume GL stacks when you know it's going to drop and potential PB usage after your downtime. It's not all that bad, and it trims down the ramp up time. So far I'm pretty satisfied with what I heard so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ossom View Post
    Heres some more info from one of the journalist. I asked him a few questions to clarify.
    http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...stream/crldag0
    Oh you're JoTheKhan good job on fishing for the info it kinda spurred me to ask a few questions too
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    From that reddit thread.

    Expending Chakra, once you've gained five stacks, can only be used to perform Forbidden Chakra (powerful single target), or restore 200 TP (it has a bit of a cooldown).

    'Forbidden Chakra' 400 Potency I believe. The Elixir Drive was 300 Potency.
    Elixir Drive looks like a more powerful version of DRG's DragonFire Dive (250 potency) that will likely have a shorter cooldown! The AOE Godz are smiling upon us! Please let this be an oGCD! We dont need another Rockbreaker!

    Forbidden Chakra looks like its MNK's version of Sneak Attack but with 100 more potency! But perhaps on a shorter cooldown as well. Since Trick/Sneak attack are on a 60s cooldown. I doubt it will take 60 seconds to build 5 stacks of Chakra assuming they are tied to GCDs.
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  4. #1334
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    So Chakra is on GCD. Forbidden Chakra was that uppercut move you saw in the job actions video.

    Edit: Move Form is on GCD as well (probably so when you're running to attack an enemy you can change forms to coeurl so you can snap punch once you reach the boss).
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    Last edited by Shincrimson; 05-27-2015 at 07:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craiger View Post
    Maybe I'm just not understanding you right, but you can't keep GL3 if you can't hit an enemy for a while. Cycling through stances won't give you GL stacks. You can instantly get the first GL stack by cycling to last stance and using Demo/Snap once the boss comes back, which is nice too, but can't get back all 3 stacks at once. Because of that, you can use get the debuff from DK right after using that Demo/Snap, and maybe that's what you meant?
    Nah I just misunderstood. I thought moving with Move Form would grant a GL stack if going through the forms as a way to get back GL3 during the boss downtime. I saw what they meant through a later reddit post though. Was just my mistake.
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    The damage on these new abilities are really high, I just wonder how the Forbidden Chakra ability (5 stacks attack), and the TP regen ability, is gonna be fit into your rotation...

    Forbidden Chakra a 400 potency attack, so plenty of damage, but you need 5 chakra stacks, and the ability that gives you a stack, is on the GCD... So, using that 5 times while you can hit the enemy, is a big DPS loss. You wanna use it when you can't attack the enemy, or maybe sacrifice 1 attack for it or something, but that's highly situational.

    I'm guessing this is gonna balance things out some, because MNKs don't need to get any crazy damage boosts when you have lots of up-time on the boss, but rather when you have lots of down time, during which you can gather those chakra stacks(note that the stance change ability also is on the GCD though)

    My problem is the TP regen ability though... If you have tons of up-time on the boss, and need TP, how is that ability gonna help you? You don't want to waste 5 damage attacks on getting up your chakra, and also, it's just 200 TP... How is that worth 5 chakra stacks?! In fights with long transition times or something, you don't really need that TP as much... So I don't really understand it, but will have to see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craiger View Post
    My problem is the TP regen ability though... If you have tons of up-time on the boss, and need TP, how is that ability gonna help you? You don't want to waste 5 damage attacks on getting up your chakra, and also, it's just 200 TP... How is that work 5 chakra stacks?!
    I think the TP ability is going to be one of those situational things. Like Invigorate on cooldown, no Goad available, and no one else is in need of TP. Also could be useful to use during an add phase that doesn't lead straight into a phase with uptime on the boss. Up until now a lot of adds don't really last all that long, but you might do some AoE that you normally wouldn't so the TP ability can compensate.

    Certainly doesn't sound like something that you'd be using all that much, but a nice addition to have when you need it.
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    The streamer said you can store up the stacks before the fight, so maybe if you know TP will be an issue that can be your use of Chakra for the first part of the fight, either early on or later when you need it to save you until Invigorate #3 (which should be never ideally). Otherwise yeah in current FFXIV content any time there's a break long enough for you to lose stacks or have serious downtime you never have TP problems, so I think that'd be the TP regen skill's core use.
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    I dont think it being on the GCD matters, there's a ton of times where I wish I could delay a GCD by 1 so I can refresh GL at 1 or like, DK, or Twins, at 1 to maximize damage, which having another buffer ability would let you do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odowla View Post
    I dont think it being on the GCD matters, there's a ton of times where I wish I could delay a GCD by 1 so I can refresh GL at 1 or like, DK, or Twins, at 1 to maximize damage, which having another buffer ability would let you do that.
    Got to agree here. So many times I'm about to have Internal Release or Blood for Blood up (1-2 seconds), but I need to form progress and I miss getting the buff applied to a DOT. Throwing a Charka stack here and there for those slight delays will be good when you also consider the payoff when you use the Forbidden Chakra move.

    Also anytime you need to move away from the target for a mechanic, and you don't need to use the change form GCD. Get that Chakra stack.
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    Last edited by Ricdeau; 05-27-2015 at 09:26 AM.

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