I feel like I've won a battle

[Higashikata]

So by this logic now were not going to use bane either to spread out dots after tri-diaster? I thought we were a dot class, now were a ahk-morn class? I'am sure your going to say but but it hits for 2.7k-3k, ok..there is also something called scaling, while hitting for 3-4k right now on live sounds like a lot, it MAY not be the same at 60.

At this point I have no idea what you're talking about. The fact you don't know (or are trying to ignore) Yoshi-P said that Bahamut Trance will be part of the one-minute cycle with aetherflow leads me to believe you don't know what you're talking about either. I'm trying to take you serious but in all honesty I cannot do this anymore. You think Tri-bind is a level 50 skill and don't even attempt proper grammar.

I don't know what straws you are grasping at, but they're not there man.

EDIT: Here's some quotes from other threads from that same livestream you think you watched.

Here's information on smn:

sources:
http://www.twitch.tv/pcgamesn
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...view?sle=true#


Tri-Bind - ((What is currently Tri-Disaster in ARR))
Tri-Disaster - Consumes an Aetherflow to apply Bio, Bio II, and Miasma on target.
Dreadwyrm Trance - Applies stacks of Bahamut Aether Which can be spent on various abilities while Aetherflow is on cooldown.
Deathflare - Giant laser that hits an AoE for massive damage (Like Akh Morn). Consumes 3 stacks of Bahamut Aether.
Painflare - Uses Bahamut Aether. Consumes less than Deathflare, possibly for more damage? More info is needed.
DoTs hit harder based on spell Speed.


Ahk-Morn: AoE, does around 2.7-3k non-crit as a reference.

The dengeki article (http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/001/056/1056760/) states something different: エーテルフロー消費アクションを実行することで蓄積される“バハムートエーテル”。 or: Consuming Aetherflow stacks Bahamut Aether up to 3.
Followed by: Once you have 3 stacks, you can invoke Bahamut-Trans which increases damage done (other japanese interview says for 15 seconds), and you get access to new big damage actions.

[Galand]

I don't know what straws you are grasping at, but they're not there man.

Oh no, man I must quit video gaming, I forgot what level I learned a spell on one of the many jobs I've reached 50 on 2 years ago! Tell me, you remember every single spell and what level you learned every single spell in every video game?

Now were going to sit and nitpick online grammar? Typical, you can not justify anything your saying so lets resort to personal attacks that have nothing to do with the subject at hand, good job sir, you win the internets

[Galand]

"Dreadwyrm Trance - Applies stacks of Bahamut Aether Which can be spent on various abilities while Aetherflow is on cooldown."

The person doing the stream thats going on right now said he had a Q and A developer show him the Summoner class, and what he SAID was, you use Aetherflow, then after thirty seconds, you could activate Dreadwyrm and it swaps your AF stacks to DW stacks, and you use the DW stacks to cast the Bahamut abilities Deathflare which takes 3 stacks, and another ability that takes less stacks.

All of this devalues dots/fester/bane/tri-diaster etc

[Higashikata]

"Dreadwyrm Trance - Applies stacks of Bahamut Aether Which can be spent on various abilities while Aetherflow is on cooldown."

The person doing the stream thats going on right now said he had a Q and A developer show him the Summoner class, and what he SAID was, you use Aetherflow, then after thirty seconds, you could activate Dreadwyrm and it swaps your AF stacks to DW stacks, and you use the DW stacks to cast the Bahamut abilities Deathflare which takes 3 stacks, and another ability that takes less stacks.

All of this devalues dots/fester/bane/tri-diaster etc

You just said you use your aetherflow stacks, then 30 seconds after you use aetherflow you can activate dreadwyrm stance. When he says "you use atherflow" he's meaning you use them on bane/fester/tri-disaster. The dengeki article says you gain bahamut stacks as you use your aetherflows. You don't even know what you're being told now.

Again, no straws.