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  1. #1
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    Brianmj's Avatar
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    Brian Jones
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    White Mage Lv 90

    I feel like I've won a battle

    I'm one of the few proponents of the current incarnation of Summoner on these boards. I've witnessed for slightly over a year Summoner mains voice their displeasure of the job, trashing it in possible way. So in order to quell the complaints Square announced, that in retrospect is possibly ugliest translation ever, Summoner was getting a massive overhaul heavily reworked. I was completely dismayed. For many on this board it wasn't enough for the job to be reworked or overhauled. For some, the game would be better if Summoner were completely removed. People that don't enjoy the job want to mutate it, transform it, have it taken away. That hurts.

    Edit - cellphone died while I was editing in the rest of the post

    Apparently the line, "if you don't enjoy a particular job, try another" applies to every job but Summoner. Yup!! Summoner needed to be fixed! Well, Square answered with new abilities and a relabeling of an unpopular one (I use it all the time in PvP). Tri-Disaster is staying but under a different name. The job still remains a dot class. And there are no new Egis because apparently the team expended quite a bit of energy just trying improve the current crop of pets. Disgruntled Summoner Mains, this is ALL your doing! You've asked for a complete overhaul and redesigns and Square gives us what we would expect from a job during the release of an expansion, enhancements. People, this is Final Fantasy XIV's Summoner. It's a dot-casting-pet job. It's an Arcanist with Fester. It's not Yuna. Isn't each Final Fantasy a chance to explore how jobs are implemented and interact with one another? Disgruntled Summoner Mains, this is 14's Summoner. It's not inadequate. It's fun, it's distinct from all the other DPS jobs. This game needs this Summoner, not a second Black Mage to compete with other DPS in downing adds. I don't mean to revel in other's misfortune but quite a few of you campaigned to take away something that many of us enjoy. Not cool.

    Maybe 3.0 will bring something that all of us will enjoy. Until then dotDotDOT

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    Last edited by Brianmj; 06-03-2015 at 02:28 AM.

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    Player Akiza's Avatar
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    Rhel Eryut
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    You've won the battle now the Summoner population will be completely dead in 3.0 and they will main Black Mages since they are clearly better than Summoner in every way.
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    Razard Baleth
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    Odin
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    You've won the battle now the Summoner population will be completely dead in 3.0 and they will main Black Mages since they are clearly better than Summoner in every way.
    Nope.

    Excuse me, if it's ok with you, I'll be over here using...

    Quote Originally Posted by Selli View Post
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Adamantoise
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Razard View Post
    Nope.

    Excuse me, if it's ok with you, I'll be over here using...
    That's cool but why couldn't they have just added a timed Bahamut Egi pet like WoW's Infernal and get the same result? I would rather have Bahamut than Bahamut's breath.
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    Senliten's Avatar
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    Senliten Solstice
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    Coeurl
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    You've won the battle now the Summoner population will be completely dead in 3.0 and they will main Black Mages since they are clearly better than Summoner in every way.
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    Tsubasa Katsuragi
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    Odin
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Razard View Post
    Nope.

    Excuse me, if it's ok with you, I'll be over here using...
    Me three. :3

    Quote Originally Posted by Selli View Post
    I am a little disappointed with not even one new egi, but I can understand their reasoning and the above makes up for it. We'll just have to see how it all plays out at level 60.
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    Razard Baleth
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    Odin
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    That's cool but why couldn't they have just added a timed Bahamut Egi pet like WoW's Infernal and get the same result? I would rather have Bahamut than Bahamut's breath.
    To be fair, the system is more like FFIX's unpowered summons (when they don't do the full animation).

    And anything that references FFIX is awesome in my book.
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    Sen Terrechant
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Razard View Post
    Nope.

    Excuse me, if it's ok with you, I'll be over here using...
    Dont feed Akiza. Guy has been a bane of the SMN threads for awhile. A vast majority of the SMN bitching comes from him alone.

    ON TOPIC: Its not a full rework. Its not even a reowrk at all. They are changing ONE ability that will only effect two things: Our opener, our ability to switch to adds without having a bane ready. Thats it.

    Adding the 'stance' and all that isnt a rework, its adding new abilities which literally every other class gets.

    Personally, ive never thought we needed a rework. Most good players have never thought we needed a rework, and the only time ive been dissatisfied with SMN was during FCoB before the Ruin mana nerf.

    Ive never went BLM, and dont plan to. I still pull amazing DPS on my SMN.
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    Last edited by Sen_Terrechant; 05-22-2015 at 09:23 AM.

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    Philia Felice
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sen_Terrechant View Post
    Dont feed Akiza. Guy has been a bane of the SMN threads for awhile. A vast majority of the SMN bitching comes from him alone.
    Yeah he's been the Bane of every SMN thread so far. Don't let it Ruin your day. If rit bothers you too much, Sic the mods on him.

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  10. #10
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    Senliten Solstice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    Yeah he's been the Bane of every SMN thread so far. Don't let it Ruin your day. If rit bothers you too much, Sic the mods on him.

    +10 internets for creativity on this.
    I admit, i loled XD
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