bottleneck performance?

[KarstenS]

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I did play with some settings myself and while I've been trying to identify a cause for bored-CPU/bored-GPU results, I can't find any, really.

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XIV is running on the 840 EVO, the rest of the hardware is visible. This is on WIN8.1x64.

During the presentation of the DX11 client, they told something that the DX11 client will adress performance issues in areas with many players by moving more CPU work
into GPU work.

From the description, it seems memory and BUS speed seems to be the bottlenecks for this.

And BTW: As I've seen on some screenshots. Beginning with Windows 8 there is a serious performance hit when running in Window/borderless Window instead of real fullscreen.

[UltimateAoe2]

During the presentation of the DX11 client, they told something that the DX11 client will adress performance issues in areas with many players by moving more CPU work
into GPU work.

From the description, it seems memory and BUS speed seems to be the bottlenecks for this.

And BTW: As I've seen on some screenshots. Beginning with Windows 8 there is a serious performance hit when running in Window/borderless Window instead of real fullscreen.

I've never had a problem running Borderless on Windows 8.1. o_o, is there seriously a difference?

I thought there wasn't any.

[LunaSnowfield]

@OP: This is important btw, did your friends stand in the same spot and were looking at the same area as you?
If you look at my screenshots, I'm having the worst performance when going up to the Ixal related crafting NPCs and looking back at the aetheryte.



I'd like to see you set your Graphics to maximum. There's also another option related to amount of character displayed in "other" settings, iirc - which also has a big impact on the performance in MD, at least for me. And then walk to the entrance of the NPC house, the direction your camera is facing, turn around and look at the aetheryte.

sigh

[einzele]

sigh

u miss the "There's also another option related to amount of character displayed in "other" settings"




another one


see the difference?
tbh i dont see as many characters on your screen, either you are on a lonely server or your char quantity setting is not max as everyone else

40-44% CPU
45-50% GPU

( in case you dont know how to see it )

No tears only dreams now.

your GPU is running at 540MHz?
must be you have the limit frame rate when client is inactive on. when you switch your window to task manager the FF is running at limited frame rate.

[Judge_Xero]

@ einzele

So I did some comparisons with my system to see if could gather some more info on what the issue might be. I manually set my CPU to 3.2Ghz and disabled turbo so that it will act as a weaker version of your CPU.

@ 3.2Ghz - 33 FPS Looking accross market - 1440p
@ 3.2Ghz - 33 FPS Looking accross market - 720p
@ 3.2Ghz - 58 FPS Looking accross market - 1440p with LOD/LOD Shadows and Occlusion Culling off
@ 3.2Ghz - 58 FPS Looking accross market - 720p with LOD/LOD Shadows and Occlusion Culling off

Then a comparison with my CPU at stock settings

@ 3.8Ghz - 33 FPS Looking accross market - 1440p
@ 3.8Ghz - 33 FPS Looking accross market - 720p
@ 3.8Ghz - 58 FPS Looking accross market - 1440p with LOD/LOD Shadows and Occlusion Culling off
@ 3.8Ghz - 58 FPS Looking accross market - 720p with LOD/LOD Shadows and Occlusion Culling off

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This is purely a GPU/API limitation in the number of simultaneous characters that can be rendered if you see a lot higher performance disabling those settings.

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You should do a comparison against my system with the LOD and LOD Shadows (under the Shadows settings) and Occlusion Culling Off. Theoretically you should then have higher FPS than me due to higher raw GPU power when not being bottlenecked by character rendering.

[Pseudopsia]

During the presentation of the DX11 client, they told something that the DX11 client will adress performance issues in areas with many players by moving more CPU work
into GPU work.

We already can see benefits in the new benchmark. I created a video awhile ago that compares DX9 to DX11.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1BMZqSN5zk

Minimum Frame rates

Time,  DX9,  DX11(DX9),       DX11
2:07,   42,         95,         76
4:20,   43,        103,         95
4:56,   53,        117,         91
5:15,   50,         86,         72

GPU Usage as %:

Time,  DX9,  DX11(DX9),       DX11
2:07,   50,        97,         97
4:20,   49,        92,         94
4:56,   54,        96,         97
5:15,   62,        97,         97

[einzele]

@Judge_Xero: okay, just tried it, only 15fps increase at most, not as big improvement as yours though. but i dont like the picture with that setting so i'll just keep it at max for now.
so both cpu and gpu change dont affect it, ok time to give up and take it as it is

i know it sounds silly, but internet connection quality doesnt affect it right? xD

[MilesSaintboroguh]

@Judge_Xero: okay, just tried it, only 15fps increase at most, not as big improvement as yours though. but i dont like the picture with that setting so i'll just keep it at max for now.
so both cpu and gpu change dont affect it, ok time to give up and take it as it is

i know it sounds silly, but internet connection quality doesnt affect it right? xD

Internet bandwidth shouldn't affect frame rate.

[Judge_Xero]

The only other instance I have seen then where another user had the same issue was where they were only using one stick of ram.
It should be noted that even if you are running two sticks, if they arent in the right slots it will still only run in single channel.

That's the only other thing I can think of. But you are definitely getting less performance than you should.

[LunaSnowfield]

Sigh x2




If you dont want to believe that this game can run at 60fps on maximum settings its your problem.