bottleneck performance?

[LunaSnowfield]

any screenshot? not doubting you but if its true it will break almost everyone' idea here

character and object quantity to max? because its what matter most

Huh.?



40-44% CPU
45-50% GPU

(http://i.imgur.com/fq5fKJ1.jpg in case you dont know how to see it )

No tears only dreams now.

[Ooshima]

any screenshot? not doubting you but if its true it will break almost everyone' idea here

character and object quantity to max? because its what matter most

That info is legit.

I had one i7-4790K clocked at 4.8GHz, I get about 45-50FPS max setting max every thing at MD aetheryte rendering as much people as possible, but one thing is I am on 1440p. At 1440p may drop to 35ish FPS at MD during those days when hunts were popular and everyone teleported there for A/S Ranks.

If I downgrade to 1080p FPS could be even higher.

Nonetheless it would really puzzle me that a Haswell i5 CPU could be bottlenecked in this non demanding game.

Last but not least you might want to try switching your GPU to another PCI-E 3.0 slot that supports at least x8 speed to check.

It could be a that your current slot is faulty. Happened to me once, the first lane was damaged and FPS dropped to near zero, even after a fresh install of OS it was at most 15-20FPS at MD.

I was totally puzzled too, until I tried another lane and it returned to normal.

[Swordphobic]

Two important factors that no one seem to have mentioned, did you recently check your pc for virus? and are you running an anti-virus while playing the game?
Both the anti-virus and a virus can be processor heavy, so get rid of virus and then get rid or configure your anti-virus for gaming mode.

[Judge_Xero]

@einzele

Yeah it is just so weird you are getting only 20 FPS.

My CPU is the same generation and 400Mhz isnt going to make a 90% FPS difference.
The 970 actually benches higher than the R9 290 in DX9 as well.

I wonder if you could compare yours to another with a 970 in Mor Dhona on standard desktop. That might get you a baseline for Max and Standard settings to try and pinpoint the bottleneck.

Also - when you install new NVidia drivers, do you got to custom -> Clean Installation?

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Edited: I wonder if it has something to do with NVidia's PhysX on the 900 Series Cards.
Try going into the NVidia Control Panel -> Set PhysX Configuration

It's probably on Auto, so try it with either the CPU or GPU while playing and see if it makes a difference.

[Raist]

400 MHz can be quite impactful depending on how it scales with other components. The original benchmark performance scaled almost in direct ratio on my older C2D system. 4100-4700 at 3ghz up to 6200-6700 when pushed to around 4ghz depending on various configurations when pushing things to the edge of stability to see if I could raise quality and stay 30fps or better.

I also found that past certain thresholds (about 3.6ghz on the CPU and about 10% over stock on GPU core) I started getting more bang for the buck by ramping up memory clocks--both at the system level and graphics card levels. You can reach a point where it is less of a raw horsepower problem and more of a data transfer issue.

[Sensual]

Don't forget the game is runing on directx9 so older cards WILL perform better as newer cards can obviously run it but they aren't "Prepared" . Once it switches do 11 you'll see a major improvement.

[einzele]

Two important factors that no one seem to have mentioned, did you recently check your pc for virus? and are you running an anti-virus while playing the game?
Both the anti-virus and a virus can be processor heavy, so get rid of virus and then get rid or configure your anti-virus for gaming mode.

i have installed kaspersky right after reformat. it does regular checkup and update, i hope its not infected with virus

@einzele

Yeah it is just so weird you are getting only 20 FPS.

My CPU is the same generation and 400Mhz isnt going to make a 90% FPS difference.
The 970 actually benches higher than the R9 290 in DX9 as well.

I wonder if you could compare yours to another with a 970 in Mor Dhona on standard desktop. That might get you a baseline for Max and Standard settings to try and pinpoint the bottleneck.

Also - when you install new NVidia drivers, do you got to custom -> Clean Installation?

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Edited: I wonder if it has something to do with NVidia's PhysX on the 900 Series Cards.
Try going into the NVidia Control Panel -> Set PhysX Configuration

It's probably on Auto, so try it with either the CPU or GPU while playing and see if it makes a difference.

well 20 is the bottom line and its not like it always stays there. the spot where animus quest npc, camera looking at the market is where i found to have lowest fps, others spots can give me 30-40 or more. i use ultrawide monitor and has more horizontal pixel, but even though i change the resolution to 1920x1080 the fps gain is minimal, 3 to 5 fps at most.
my heavensward bench score is 10800
yes i did clean installation and change the physx config between auto cpu or gpu, none had any noticeable difference.

400 MHz can be quite impactful depending on how it scales with other components. The original benchmark performance scaled almost in direct ratio on my older C2D system. 4100-4700 at 3ghz up to 6200-6700 when pushed to around 4ghz depending on various configurations when pushing things to the edge of stability to see if I could raise quality and stay 30fps or better.
I also found that past certain thresholds (about 3.6ghz on the CPU and about 10% over stock on GPU core) I started getting more bang for the buck by ramping up memory clocks--both at the system level and graphics card levels. You can reach a point where it is less of a raw horsepower problem and more of a data transfer issue.

yes i notice the screenshots posted here have faster cpu than mine, i really think thats the culprit.

[einzele]

i forgot to show the real in game capture here

[BunnyChain]

I think it's an API (DirectX 9.0) issue as some people have been saying.

I've been playing around with the Occlusion Culling setting:

When OC is enabled GPU is running at around 80% and CPU somewhere between 70-80%, then I disable it (the middle part) GPU drops to 70% (also the FPS by 10) and the CPU is around 60-70%, after I enable it again both return to their original values.

What does that tell us? When the GPU is more utilized so is the CPU, neither of them are "bottlenecks", at least that's what I think.

It increases/decreases by 10 FPS respectively.

I've ran the same thing with the HW benchmark; never, not even the highly populated scenes, caused the GPU to go much below 100%. But I personally doubt they were as highly populated as Mor D'hona.

I went ahead and made a comparison of Dx9 and Dx11:

Dotted Lines are DirectX 9, continuous DirectX 11.
The average CPU load is about 10% less with 11 than 9.

[LunaSnowfield]

Another one just in case.