Please be more understanding of your fellow player

[Miste]

This is kinda one sided...new people/inexperienced people are not completely innocent on being rude.

I've been vote kicked out of a group just for politely letting a fellow BLM know that "oh if you use Fire I and use firestarter it is better than only using Fire III" then a minute later BAM vote kicked out.

I've also been vote kicked out for asking a tank to flash more cause I was getting hate just healing them. "Oh can you please use flash a bit more? I keep getting monsters on me from healing you" ....after that pull BAM vote kicked.

I used to try to help people that were new to the dungeon in DF but I gave up. Not only have a few times gotten me unjustly removed from the group but I've been verbally harassed a lot in the past just for offering a few tips.

I still try to help people some but it has become much less often that I bother to type anything. If they don't want to learn the game then fine, but kicking someone or swearing at someone for trying to help yeah...if you don't like or don't want to take the advice you can just ignore it right?

Some new players are hostile to veteran players, no matter how you handle it.

Yep...seen a lot of this.

[Twilite]

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If we ever pair up in DF and I'm new(some dungeons I've only run once, it takes many runs for me to get a dungeon down pack) to it, by all means help me. There will be no shortage of lalahugs if you do.

About the only time I was a bit irritated was when doing the castrum for story. Them 500 billion cutscenes, and while I wasn't watching them, I was still being held hostage by the load screens, and delay for the skip scene prompt. I was telling people they were moving faster than the cutscene system was allowing me to get out, and they were all like "sorry, we ran this 100s of time so it's nothing to just blaze through it now". Then I was told off to turn off cutscenes all together.

Which leads me to this: New players have things from the game that holds them hostage for a bit, so people have to wait on them. Can cause problems..

[JimboTCB]

I still try to help people some but it has become much less often that I bother to type anything. If they don't want to learn the game then fine, but kicking someone or swearing at someone for trying to help yeah...if you don't like or don't want to take the advice you can just ignore it right?

I can barely be bother trying to offer constructive criticism to people any more. Bad players who don't even know enough to realise they're bad never respond well to criticism, and the bad players who know they're bad are either just lazy or completely indifferent to it. It's more stress than it's worth trying to teach people who don't want to learn, I'll just suck it up and deal with them, and if they're so irredeemably bad that they're an impediment to the group I'd rather just bounce and re-queue than have to deal with their crap. Harsh, maybe, but I don't play this game to babysit people who can't be bothered spending the ten minutes it'd take them to find out how to play their class even remotely competently.

[Able]

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Yup. It definitely goes both ways. I hate to be negative nancy, but I've encountered so much hostility (in the relatively small amount of time that I can play) that I'm slowly disengaging from the community entirely. Now, I typically don't speak in dungeons or farm parties (which I rarely bother with. I avoid PF and DF if at all possible). I've confined myself to the circle of friends I already have. I've stopped reaching out to meet new people - primarily because I've encountered so much hostility. And I guess that's my way of "ignoring" it and "having a thick skin" as so many are quick to recommend. The problem with that is, if everyone does that, then the community withers and dies. In my mind at least, the community has fostered an environment in which reaching out to help others is perceived as a perilous act. I don't want to feel that way.