Fix Sumnmoner

[Jandor]

Disappointed about the lack of new summons, but we haven't seen everything yet in relation to new abilities and the possibility of customizing summons sounds good. It could allow us to get "new" egis as the Primal fights are released.

Melee Ravana
Tank Bismark
Caster Ramuh

I mean, my summoning in previous FF games was mostly based on which one had the coolest looking attacks

[Kikosho]

I'm not sure where people are getting this from, but the Egi are not getting new abilities. Just the prospect of glamours in the future. This is what disappoints me most about the change. As Shurrikhan so eloquently put it, the Egi are becoming less significant in the wake of these new changes.

Tell me more about how you didn't listen to the Live Letter and hear them say that all the Egis are getting new abilities.

[Cabalabob]

Haven't you ever heard big things come in small packages. Plus with everything that happens on screen would you really want a huge summon fighting along side you. Wouldn't that get confusing, like if you were fighting titan with titan. Also everyone neds to stop comparing 14 to 11, this will never be 11-2. Could the Egis of been designed a bit better, maybe, but do their designs fit into both the games atmosphere and the lore, yes.

And people need to stop posting stop comparing to 11 as soon as it's mentioned in any context, fact is when you release something in the same series as something else and it's worse than its predecessor it's going to be compared. If a keyboard company released a keyboard 2 that didn't have an enter button or an escape button or any arrow keys, people would say "why the hell did you make this? What was wrong with the enter button and escape button and arrow keys on keyboard 1??".

FFXI's SMN had its flaws yes, but for every 1 thing they improved on SMN here compared to XI they made 2 things far worse.

FFXI SMN could not be cured or buffed. Fixed that, but also made the pets useless to the job so doesn't matter in the slightest what you do to them!

FFXI SMN was boring when you didn't have a pet out, fixed that, gave SMN a base class that wasn't to do with summoning. But also made the job nothing to do with summoning!

As for the look, no I don't think it would be confusing, if you confuse a small roegadyn sized Titan for the actual Titan then hungry hungry hippos may be more along the lines of your skill level than ffxiv.

[pandabearcat]

"Worse?"

Everything i hear about summoners in FFXI is that they pushed one button then afk'd.

Also, I don't want bigger egis. I don't even notice my egi.

So there. I guess if we were to vote we would cancel out.

[Spellbinder]

Tell me more about how you didn't listen to the Live Letter and hear them say that all the Egis are getting new abilities.

Okay, smart guy. I listened to the Live Letter, and I was paying attention to the Japanese because I'm fluent in it, and I don't trust the lady they had interpreting (no offense to her, as she's obviously not familiar with the game like the developers). Link the video with a time stamp where he said it. I'll transcribe for you what he said if you really want it. Granted, I was watching at nearly 3:30 in the morning (JST), but I did not hear anything about new Egi abilities come from his lips.

[Senliten]

Does it matter if they left it out or not? No, why? Because only a small portion of the skills were shown for the summoner. More than likely, because of the level cap itself, we will see at least one pet skill regardless. Be it from a revamped system and the ability being lower, or something around the level 55ish range. Can we all just agree to disagree on this bit and just simply wait for the 3.0 notes to be read at e3, to see about what is going on with our pets?

[AreeyaJaidee]

Does it matter if they left it out or not? No, why? Because only a small portion of the skills were shown for the summoner. More than likely, because of the level cap itself, we will see at least one pet skill regardless. Be it from a revamped system and the ability being lower, or something around the level 55ish range. Can we all just agree to disagree on this bit and just simply wait for the 3.0 notes to be read at e3, to see about what is going on with our pets?

How do you know this?

You can't expect anything for certain from SE anymore. First were getting new Egis, now we're not.

They mention pet Glamour's for a future date as a consolidation prize, but I'm not holding my breath. Once bitten, twice shy as the saying goes.

[Senliten]

How do you know this?

You can't expect anything for certain from SE anymore. First were getting new Egis, now we're not.

They mention pet Glamour's for a future date as a consolidation prize, but I'm not holding my breath. Once bitten, twice shy as the saying goes.

Prolly can just call it simply holding an old mindset from older mmo's on what expansions can bring. But regardless, people are looking to far into what is written as is so why not do the opposite of what the potatoes are doing? Or is there some silly little written rule that you have to bash anything and everything without thinking or being the least bit optimistic simple cause it's SE.

[AreeyaJaidee]

Prolly can just call it simply holding an old mindset from older mmo's on what expansions can bring. But regardless, people are looking to far into what is written as is so why not do the opposite of what the potatoes are doing? Or is there some silly little written rule that you have to bash anything and everything without thinking or being the least bit optimistic simple cause it's SE.

What's to guess about them outright lying? (I'll be optimistic and call it "not following through" or "going another direction")

If they've done it once, they'll do it again.

I know one thing for sure, they chose to reveal BLM over every other job. Why? IDK, for reasons

The message they've given us is clear: Here's the new SMN, like it or not, we don't care, Have a nice day! It cements the reality that at the end of the day only one two things will rule our tiny planet that is FFXIV: What is easy and safe.

If it meets those two criteria, then its optimal for the game. Despite what wars ensue on the forums.

[melflomil]

What's to guess about them outright lying? (I'll be optimistic and call it "not following through" or "going another direction")

If they've done it once, they'll do it again.

I know one thing for sure, they chose to reveal BLM over every other job. Why? IDK, for reasons

The message they've given ME is clear: Here's the new SMN, like it or not, we don't care, Have a nice day! It cements the reality that at the end of the day only one two things will rule our tiny planet that is FFXIV: What is easy and safe.

If it meets those two criteria, then its optimal for the game. Despite what wars ensue on the forums.

Fixed it for you.