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Thread: RIP Bard

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    So.. with this new found information I guess we can say that Bard is now MOSTLY dead. As you all know, there's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead there's usually only one thing you can do.

    What's that you ask?

    Why, Go through their pockets and look for unused minions of course!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    If I'm not remembering wrong, the maximum number of songs that could be affecting you was 4, but that would require two bards in the party.

    So according Zhexos' update, the buff doesn't prevent movement like I originally though. It basically turns BRD into a caster. I'm still not happy to hear that and question why that wasn't reserved for a future ranged DPS class.
    And thus I have learned new things, thank you.

    As for the buff: Alot of people did say they were willing to trade mobility for dps, and they got it. You can still turn it off and go to normal dps as it currently is, and there probably will be times when not having it on will be for the better.
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    If it essentially changes all our moves to casting, doesn't that make it to where we can't weave in oGCD abilities in between globals? If that's the case, this song seems entirely useless unless the damage output is significant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMccain View Post
    If it essentially changes all our moves to casting, doesn't that make it to where we can't weave in oGCD abilities in between globals? If that's the case, this song seems entirely useless unless the damage output is significant.
    It changes your skills with the charge but it is probably a song to be used when you have open DPS time and nothing to move for. e.g; when you're not getting a line off T8 boss but just dps'ing then you turn it off before you gotta move or while you're on the move. It can also be used in T10 when you're on the phases that you're not the charge mark and don't gotta move in for charge but you sit there with heat debuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    So according Zhexos' update, the buff doesn't prevent movement like I originally though. It basically turns BRD into a caster. I'm still not happy to hear that and question why that wasn't reserved for a future ranged DPS class.
    From what I can figure it is to allow Bard stationary target DpS to reach similar levels as the other DpS classes. The three new classes and the new skills for existing classes seem to be designed so that no class will have an overwhelming advantage or disadvantage when doing content.

    Consider a new T8 like fight, if the Machinist fill a similar support DpS role to the Bard but has superior stationary DpS then groups would want Machinists over Bards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillia View Post
    It changes your skills with the charge but it is probably a song to be used when you have open DPS time and nothing to move for. e.g; when you're not getting a line off T8 boss but just dps'ing then you turn it off before you gotta move or while you're on the move. It can also be used in T10 when you're on the phases that you're not the charge mark and don't gotta move in for charge but you sit there with heat debuff.
    I know it can be used in low mobility portions of fights, but that's not my question. If you are casting your abilities, you are losing places where you can use oGCD abilities(such as bloodletter, misery's end, blunt arrow, repelling shot, and all of your damage buff cds).
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    Last edited by JohnMccain; 05-22-2015 at 09:50 AM.

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    Personally interested to see how potent minuet is when stacked with Battle Voice (IF it can even be used to buff wanderers)
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    Last edited by Hayze; 05-22-2015 at 09:59 AM.

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    This sounds so bad for Bard because we have so MANY off global cooldown skills. It's going against what Bard is. I would be fine with it if it din't make our skills become casts..... But i'm sure most of the Bard players want to keep their mobility and if they wanted to play a caster they wouldn't be playing Bard but Summ or Blm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMccain View Post
    I know it can be used in low mobility portions of fights, but that's not my question. If you are casting your abilities, you are losing places where you can use oGCD abilities(such as bloodletter, misery's end, blunt arrow, repelling shot, and all of your damage buff cds).
    I see what you mean now... mm..... Idk. we just gotta see how it changes bard when we get it, the damage could end up being worth it somehow. >.<
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillia View Post
    I see what you mean now... mm..... Idk. we just gotta see how it changes bard when we get it, the damage could end up being worth it somehow. >.<
    Even if it's worth using it will make the job clunky because of all our OGC skills.
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