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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhexos View Post
    Greetings,





    Actually the effect from Wanderer's Minuet does not disappear when you move, this is our mistake, and we apologize for the confusion. It is as Seifa mentioned, that if you move while using your actions, then that action will be interrupted.

    We have updated our post with the correct information in the digest thread here.
    0.0 I didn't think a community team member would post. It's really cool that it is clarified though, since that actually does make the song viable since it will allow you to make the slight movements needed in a movement critical fight without having to recast your bard song. That makes this a whole lot better than I originally thought it was, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose-Wild View Post
    Even if it's worth using it will make the job clunky because of all our OGC skills.
    Very much this. Not sure how well or effective that could be.
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    This is...
    well, it isn't awful, especially since we can turn it off and on. Does it have a cast time like other songs, if so how long? Is it on-GCD even while turning it off?
    To be honest this doesn't sound like the end of the world, even with all our oGCD skills. I would think the buff you get from using the song must at least consider the damage potential in those lost skill abilities or what's the point?

    I'll have to try it out before I have a more solid opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualblade View Post
    Still not exactly something that would be easy to do, and thats BEFORE we start talking about doing so in battle. That said it makes sense, more so if one song is considered voice and the other instrumental I guess.

    Though now I wonder where I got the "one person could do 4 songs at once" thing from...
    Not only is four songs from one bard possible in FFXI (with the right harp), five songs is possible as well. The job operates far differently from what we have in FFXIV, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    This is...
    well, it isn't awful, especially since we can turn it off and on. Does it have a cast time like other songs, if so how long? Is it on-GCD even while turning it off?
    To be honest this doesn't sound like the end of the world, even with all our oGCD skills. I would think the buff you get from using the song must at least consider the damage potential in those lost skill abilities or what's the point?

    I'll have to try it out before I have a more solid opinion.
    From the video it looks like it has a long cast like Ballad or Requiem but from what we got told it doesn't go away so you can cast it before starting a fight. My issue is with the nature of bloodletter... it's going to be really annoying. It's not like with Summ that you see that your OGCD is going to be ready so you can just use ruin 2 and use your ogcd in the middle of it without losing any dps.
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    If it turns our shots into a channeled ability (which is why the *holds arrow at quiver* animation is for), it'd need to some clunkiness with bloodletter procs.
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    I like it. Seems interesting. Casting = bigger hits. They dont necessarily mean better DPS but theyre still much more satisfying :P

    That entire video looks promising actually. Machinist seemed pretty basic though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhexos View Post
    Greetings,





    Actually the effect from Wanderer's Minuet does not disappear when you move, this is our mistake, and we apologize for the confusion. It is as Seifa mentioned, that if you move while using your actions, then that action will be interrupted.

    We have updated our post with the correct information in the digest thread here.
    Following Zhexos's update... good bye clip-less Bloodletter unless the cast times are significantly shorter than the GCDs. Same with the other many oGCDs and the weaving thereof, which used to be the difference between an optimal and non-optimal bard apart from CD-immediacy and minimizing song-dps-costs.
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    If it's anything like the procs for BLM, then Bloodletter will still instant proc with no cooldown or cast time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catwho View Post
    If it's anything like the procs for BLM, then Bloodletter will still instant proc with no cooldown or cast time.
    Bloodletters can proc mid-cast though. Firestarter fire BLM happens after a cast hits.
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