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    Reimi Namikaze
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    Its probably something that will let others differentiate those who care to those who dont. A bard who is able to effectively use this song gets even stronger. However a bard that doesn't know how to use the song and doesnt want to use it, still does optimal minimal BRD dps. The only way this skill can potentially hurt someones numbers is if they don't know how to use it but still use it anyways with no knowledge.

    I guess there giving us BRD mains a reason to NOT mess up as we dont really get punished for messing up like BLM or the melee's do. If you can do it correctly more deeps, if you cant well.....back to the drawing board for you.
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    Lillia Hope
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    I just saw the update! That means it lowers dps if you're moving with the song on because no auto attack nor skills can be done but doesn't restrict your movement.

    I'm glad that got cleared up, thanks Zhexos. ^^;
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    If it essentially changes all our moves to casting, doesn't that make it to where we can't weave in oGCD abilities in between globals? If that's the case, this song seems entirely useless unless the damage output is significant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMccain View Post
    If it essentially changes all our moves to casting, doesn't that make it to where we can't weave in oGCD abilities in between globals? If that's the case, this song seems entirely useless unless the damage output is significant.
    It changes your skills with the charge but it is probably a song to be used when you have open DPS time and nothing to move for. e.g; when you're not getting a line off T8 boss but just dps'ing then you turn it off before you gotta move or while you're on the move. It can also be used in T10 when you're on the phases that you're not the charge mark and don't gotta move in for charge but you sit there with heat debuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillia View Post
    It changes your skills with the charge but it is probably a song to be used when you have open DPS time and nothing to move for. e.g; when you're not getting a line off T8 boss but just dps'ing then you turn it off before you gotta move or while you're on the move. It can also be used in T10 when you're on the phases that you're not the charge mark and don't gotta move in for charge but you sit there with heat debuff.
    I know it can be used in low mobility portions of fights, but that's not my question. If you are casting your abilities, you are losing places where you can use oGCD abilities(such as bloodletter, misery's end, blunt arrow, repelling shot, and all of your damage buff cds).
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    Last edited by JohnMccain; 05-22-2015 at 09:50 AM.

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    Personally interested to see how potent minuet is when stacked with Battle Voice (IF it can even be used to buff wanderers)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMccain View Post
    I know it can be used in low mobility portions of fights, but that's not my question. If you are casting your abilities, you are losing places where you can use oGCD abilities(such as bloodletter, misery's end, blunt arrow, repelling shot, and all of your damage buff cds).
    I see what you mean now... mm..... Idk. we just gotta see how it changes bard when we get it, the damage could end up being worth it somehow. >.<
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillia View Post
    I see what you mean now... mm..... Idk. we just gotta see how it changes bard when we get it, the damage could end up being worth it somehow. >.<
    Even if it's worth using it will make the job clunky because of all our OGC skills.
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    This sounds so bad for Bard because we have so MANY off global cooldown skills. It's going against what Bard is. I would be fine with it if it din't make our skills become casts..... But i'm sure most of the Bard players want to keep their mobility and if they wanted to play a caster they wouldn't be playing Bard but Summ or Blm.
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    Aeon Rakshasa
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    This is...
    well, it isn't awful, especially since we can turn it off and on. Does it have a cast time like other songs, if so how long? Is it on-GCD even while turning it off?
    To be honest this doesn't sound like the end of the world, even with all our oGCD skills. I would think the buff you get from using the song must at least consider the damage potential in those lost skill abilities or what's the point?

    I'll have to try it out before I have a more solid opinion.
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    Last edited by AskaRay; 05-22-2015 at 10:26 AM. Reason: i cant spell

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