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Thread: RIP WHM/SCH

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    Quote Originally Posted by ValkyrieL View Post
    The stances are a concern....Basically they are saying a healer stance (WHM) and a defensive stance (SCH).. if the potency of the heals are good, this will DEFINITELY cause double stacking of Astrogians... as they seem to be able to buff/dps as well.
    or you could bring a sch and a whm....2 astro wouldn't be able to do more than any other combo.
    it's like saying lets stack all smn, cause they can DPS, and res, and tank.
    also they buffed whm dps, and allowed for more passive healing...so they can dps/heal. sch can buff/dps/heal, so lets stack 2 sch then...or just go with whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ValkyrieL View Post
    The stances are a concern....Basically they are saying a healer stance (WHM) and a defensive stance (SCH).. if the potency of the heals are good, this will DEFINITELY cause double stacking of Astrogians... as they seem to be able to buff/dps as well.
    Precisely what I am thinking. Also, astro will have random buffs like haste and attack power, so they can contribute to dpsing as well.
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    I don't think it changes much, although the thought of "sacrificing" Eos for more potent cures makes me feel sad :<

    Just imagine immediately resummoning her and getting chewed out for that move, ala Tinkerbell.
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    I was wondering.

    New action: Emergency Tactics
    Instead of adding a barrier effect to Adloquium, this action will give addition healing power for the amount of the effect of the barrier.

    This basically makes an Adlo a worse Cure II. What's the point?
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    Last edited by Remilia_Nightfall; 05-22-2015 at 06:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall View Post
    I was wondering.

    New action: Emergency Tactics
    Instead of adding a barrier effect to Adloquium, this action will give addition healing power for the amount of the effect of the barrier.

    This basically makes an Adlo a worse Cure II. What's the point?
    Actually I think it's a great addition to have on SCH because Adlo in general on non-crit IS worse than Cure II. Not to mention as SCH is right now, whenever heavy healing is needed, SCH are forced into using Lustrate in combination with their healing which can be dangerous from a progression prospect and making Adlo able to sub as a near Cure II like spell is a good substitute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    she said that sharp cast for blm, would apply proc as an effect, and that would be helpful.......proc isn't an effect.....she was bad cause she doesn't know game terminology.
    it ensures crit, if i heard correctly from Yoshi talking.
    You heard and saw completely wrong, then. It forces the next ability you use to proc its additional effect. So Fire will give Firestarter, for example.
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    As for me I'm really looking forward to AST, a WHM/SCH hybrid is all I ever dreamed.
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    From the looks of things:

    WHM is going to excel even further in burst and regen healing than it currently does, especially with basically getting Sacred Prism and its own Lustrate-style instant mini-benediction
    SCH is going to remain a powerful shield healer, but is getting some more tools to assist the cases where it needs AoE/Burst healing
    AST will be capable of functioning similarly to either. Probably slightly less effective than either in their strong areas, but capable of providing some alternative party buffs
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    Quote Originally Posted by desufin View Post
    Actually I think it's a great addition to have on SCH because Adlo in general on non-crit IS worse than Cure II. Not to mention as SCH is right now, whenever heavy healing is needed, SCH are forced into using Lustrate in combination with their healing which can be dangerous from a progression prospect and making Adlo able to sub as a near Cure II like spell is a good substitute.
    Adlo per se is already worse than Cure II in terms of raw potency. However, the shield part of Adlo pretty much guarantees zero overhealing. This new skill will just convert the shield part to healing, nothing more. I fail to see how this would be useful in ANY situation. Shield IS basically a heal, with the difference that it cannot overheal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall View Post
    I was wondering.

    New action: Emergency Tactics
    Instead of adding a barrier effect to Adloquium, this action will give addition healing power for the amount of the effect of the barrier.

    This basically makes an Adlo a worse Cure II. What's the point?
    Sch's can't turn it up without using Lustriate. That's some more healing for yas if stuff is bad.
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