Cross-Class Glamour?

[DarkDedede]

I'd say, if player reaches the point where they are able to equip the piece normally, the player should have the option to glamour it to any job. For example, the player shouldn't be able to glamour lvl 50 bard equipment, to an unrelated piece, until they've reached lvl 50 bard. That seems to be a reasonable limitation, at least to me. I'm pretty sure the game can detect this difference already.

[RiceisNice]

Why do people care about "silhouettes" of jobs? We can glamour snowman heads and bikinis, there's already no "Tanks look like X, Healers look like Y" anymore. The weapon is already the only giveaway you can be sure of, I say let everyone glamour everything - the weapon will still tell you their job if you have to be able to tell visually. In PvP, you see their class written over their head anyway, and in group content you see their class symbol. Really doesn't matter what they wear.

And for those people who're hell-bent on having everyone looking as much as their class as possible, all we need is a checkbox in the options that shows or hides other people's cross-class glamour, done.

Because a whitemage that's running around with a pointy blackmage hat and tall-necklines is completely more nonsensical than a healer that's healing in a snowman head/bikini. And yes I'm being completely serious here; that's where it breaks the line with me.

Aside from that there is also developmental aspects when they made it "you have to be able to wear it to be able to glamour into it". Partially being reason why casters can't glamour into tank gear or monks glamouring into DRG gear, theres itemization balancing, and I'm sure it's more work to recode something like that from the bottom up.

Also, I'm going to go ahead and say "PS3 limitations" when they don't even get options to change graphic settings/UI, and SE has made a point they want to keep the UI between platforms as close as possible.

[Riepah]

Because a whitemage that's running around with a pointy blackmage hat and tall-necklines is completely more nonsensical than a healer that's healing in a snowman head/bikini. And yes I'm being completely serious here; that's where it breaks the line with me.

Draw the line there all you want, a checkbox to hide other people's cross-class glamour solves this for you just fine. Leave the developmental aspects and PS3 limitations to SE - they'll drop PS3 support soon enough, so if that's really a factor, it won't be one forever.

I'd say, if player reaches the point where they are able to equip the piece normally, the player should have the option to glamour it to any job. For example, the player shouldn't be able to glamour lvl 50 bard equipment, to an unrelated piece, until they've reached lvl 50 bard.

This would also provide additional incentive to multiclass, I rather like the idea.

[abzoluut]

I'd rather have them fix the base glamour system first. Make it so glamour is saved for a job (or class) so my PLD and WAR (and DRK?) or SCH and WHM or BLM and SMN or probably BRD and MCN don't look the exact same please. Not to mention when you have that lovely crafter AF, but you basically run around in Artisan's apron/shoes/hands/pants..

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...Glamour-system

[DarkDedede]

I'd rather have them fix the base glamour system first.[/URL]

Yes this too. It would be a bit more convenient if we could save glamour sets, like we can with gear.

I'm hoping the glamour system gets somewhat of an overhaul for the expansion.

[Kallera]

My current nin glamour as of this post:

Not exactly the picture of stealth, but I'm definitely not alone in not caring.

Thing is, all I need do is glam the shoes to sailor shoes, and I can use this "silhouette" for every class and job.

There are some other pieces I do enjoy for looks especially caster gear, but they are class locked >_< despite similar gear not being locked earlier , so I'd love for future recipies to be less restrictive than they've been recently.

[Felis]

Do you think it would be cool if we could cross-class clothing and such from other classes?

Then again, i'm a SCH and most SCH gear looks meh compared to BLM, Others gear choices. I just wish we could use their sets as appearance.

I don't really see a point in restricting it, its not like I can't put on a piece of armor or cloth I found, and I will always have a scholar weapon so people know i'm a scholar.

You can already do it with "all classes" gears.
No reason to do it also with class specific gears.

[Riepah]

You can already do it with "all classes" gears.
No reason to do it also with class specific gears.

The person you quoted provided a reason; they find their main job's gear choices "meh" and wish to be able to glamour others. What more reason do you need? Isn't the whole POINT of the glamour system to make yourself look the way you want? Having more options tends to be a good thing.

[DarkDedede]

What more reason do you need?

That's the thing, s/he doesn't need one. They don't need it personally, so by that logic, no one should. Empathy need not apply.

Funny thing is, the naysayers won't be complaining once the inevitable improvements are made. I can't imagine someone saying "man, I wish the glamour system was more restrictive and convoluted. Oh, the good old days." Of course, by that logic, they probably will.

[Felis]

The person you quoted provided a reason; they find their main job's gear choices "meh" and wish to be able to glamour others. What more reason do you need? Isn't the whole POINT of the glamour system to make yourself look the way you want? Having more options tends to be a good thing.

Instead to change it that you can use glamour of gear the class can't wear, why not just asking to change all gears into "all classes" gears or just bring back the favored class on gear from 1.0?
i'm sure it is easier to change the requirements on gear instead of changing the glamour system.

Also, if I can use tank gear as a glamour for my healer then it is also my right to roll need on tank gear as a healer.