Cross-Class Glamour?

[Colorful]

The argument Yoshida keeps throwing out regarding classes not being able to wear gear from outside their class makes little to no sense when you consider all the gear sharing. I'm not allowed to wear Bard sets as a Ninja, but the Leviathan Lore set is fine even though it's clearly designed with Bard in mind? The same goes every other set we share with Bard of course, some work and some don't, but regardless there's plenty of sets that would work just fine and yet it's not allowed for whatever reason. I understanding restricting Job gear (AF 1 and AF 2), but everything else seems like a restriction for the sake of having a restriction.

You can't cast spells in heavy plate armor unless it has a very rare enchatment on it.

Glamour is only an illusion, so that won't be an issue.

[RezonShinryu]

I just want to be able to glamour my Dreadwyrm cyclas of striking onto a couple of other classes, I love that coat

[Andrea]

Maybe its because I'm a scholar main, or the fact that I'm female but imo scholar has some of the better gear to use for glamours.

They have access to the usual nice looking healing gear as well as the AF/Eso gear. In fact I'd say the AF legs are one of the best options when it comes to leg glamours >.<

[Nektulos-Tuor]

That seems refreshing to me.

"You can't use Warrior-DRK-Dragoon Armor until you reach level X on Dragoon."

That would give people reason to level other classes besides just for combat.

Of course, a Dragoon full suit without a lance would look silly. However who says you have to use the full set of an outfit? Maybe they were a Dragoon before and just cept the helmet for example?

[Amiaze]

While I would be all for using gear from other classes, I've seen far too many players who don't know what a job crystal is or how to acquire it in post-30 dungeons and seen far too many tanks who literally do not know that they are meant to tank. I've been in runs where the tank would grab one out of four or five enemies and literally just attempt to DPS that single target down without once touching the others that were attacking the party.

It may sound like a very bad reason, but after playing since 2.0 and seeing players brand new to MMOs, I've come to realize that there are many players who literally don''t know what they're supposed to be doing. Heck, I used to be one of them. I started as Archer and I knew, without a doubt, that I needed to equip Strength gear despite being told otherwise. God forbid these new players see tanks wearing mage gear and don't realize that it's just glamoured.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

While I would be all for using gear from other classes, I've seen far too many players who don't know what a job crystal is or how to acquire it in post-30 dungeons and seen far too many tanks who literally do not know that they are meant to tank. I've been in runs where the tank would grab one out of four or five enemies and literally just attempt to DPS that single target down without once touching the others that were attacking the party.

It may sound like a very bad reason, but after playing since 2.0 and seeing players brand new to MMOs, I've come to realize that there are many players who literally don''t know what they're supposed to be doing. Heck, I used to be one of them. I started as Archer and I knew, without a doubt, that I needed to equip Strength gear despite being told otherwise. God forbid these new players see tanks wearing mage gear and don't realize that it's just glamoured.

And that is part of the conversation why? We are talking about cross-class glamours only available for high level players. Players who don't even pick their jobs will not only not have access to said armor but won't be able to get it. So that is null/void.

Unless you meant to reply in another topic. In which case I'm sorry, but what you say makes no sense.

This is *only* for glamour purposes. You also cannot roll "need" for gear less your that character.

I apologize if I am rude, but i've never been fond of "you can't have this" because a person can't put a square in a circle. If they are having that much trouble they probably cannot even use the glamour system in the first place.

[Amiaze]

This is *only* for glamour purposes. You also cannot roll "need" for gear less your that character.

I understand what you're saying. I never mentioned rolling on anything, or not glamouring something. I was speaking strictly about using gear for glamouring purposes and the confusion that it could cause a new player, which was SE's stance as well. Imagine a new player who, not realizing that gear can be glamoured, sees a BLM running around in DRG gear.

Example: an endgame BRD that has glamoured using BLM gear goes into a low-level dungeon for whatever reason, particularly a leveling dungeon. A new player, not knowing any better, and not realizing that it's only glamour, believes that BLM gear will someohow be handy for ARC or BRD. Of course, they'll eventually be restricted from equipping anything outside of their job once they hit tome gear -- but this does not rectify any issues when leveling.


I was stating that new players, because FFXIV is on console, are often completely ignorant when it comes to what they should be doing. I was grabbing melee DPS gear as an ARC early on because I also misunderstood what I was supposed to be doing. Given what I've seen recently, I can't support the idea, as much as I'd like to.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

I understand what you're saying. I never mentioned rolling on anything, or not glamouring something. I was speaking strictly about using gear for glamouring purposes and the confusion that it could cause a new player, which was SE's stance as well. Imagine a new player who, not realizing that gear can be glamoured, sees a BLM running around in DRG gear.

Example: an endgame BRD that has glamoured using BLM gear goes into a low-level dungeon for whatever reason, particularly a leveling dungeon. A new player, not knowing any better, and not realizing that it's only glamour, believes that BLM gear will someohow be handy for ARC or BRD. Of course, they'll eventually be restricted from equipping anything outside of their job once they hit tome gear -- but this does not rectify any issues when leveling.


I was stating that new players, because FFXIV is on console, are often completely ignorant when it comes to what they should be doing. I was grabbing melee DPS gear as an ARC early on because I also misunderstood what I was supposed to be doing. Given what I've seen recently, I can't support the idea, as much as I'd like to.

Well, I think the first clue he gets is when the guy is using spells or his group window saying BLM. I also don't see why, I do low level dungeons all the time and I usually don't look at other people at all. I barely know most of the time what I remember them wearing and could care less if they show up.

Plus, that confusion already happens when a tank comes in with a Bikini.. hey whose the tank? However, I haven't seen any complaints here.

Oh.. must be the bikini wearing babe with the GIANT axe.

[Cxplorer]

I want my summoner to wear a cool armor.

[Critical-Limit]

Why do people care about "silhouettes" of jobs? We can glamour snowman heads and bikinis, there's already no "Tanks look like X, Healers look like Y" anymore. The weapon is already the only giveaway you can be sure of, I say let everyone glamour everything - the weapon will still tell you their job if you have to be able to tell visually. In PvP, you see their class written over their head anyway, and in group content you see their class symbol. Really doesn't matter what they wear.

And for those people who're hell-bent on having everyone looking as much as their class as possible, all we need is a checkbox in the options that shows or hides other people's cross-class glamour, done.

This is literal win for everyone.