Kicked for not going into the belly in WoD

[Bombast]

Incorrect. It is a reasonable use of Vote Kick to remove someone who won't be a part of the team strategy. You cannot be reported for that. Well, you can. But GMs will throw that report away.

Where, exactly, is the 'Didn't do exactly what I want so fuck this dude' option?

EDIT: Technically speaking, the GMs throw just about all reports away.

[Dualblade]

Where, exactly, is the 'Didn't do exactly what I want so fuck this dude' option?

EDIT: Technically speaking, the GMs throw just about all reports away.

Harassment, though the way you word it of course makes it more them harassing.

That said, the Alliance agreed to it, and if they did voice objections in an aggressive way and refused to do so, it can be seen as harassment. Just pointing out.

[Cirgellon]

Where, exactly, is the 'Didn't do exactly what I want so fuck this dude' option?

EDIT: Technically speaking, the GMs throw just about all reports away.

They have said that you can kick if people aren't playing the way the rest of the group wants. Its been pointed out in many threads where people were kicked for viewing cutscenes as the rest wanted to speed run. Not following the strategy is surely going to fall in that same category. This thing about reporting people for the kick is just dumb...

That said, I wouldn't have kicked you for it. You should just stop typing in chat if you don't want to follow the strategy. Stop arguing with people about it. They most likely wouldn't have even known that you did your own thing if you didn't draw attention to it.

[Nanaho]

They have said that you can kick if people aren't playing the way the rest of the group wants. Its been pointed out in many threads where people were kicked for viewing cutscenes as the rest wanted to speed run. Not following the strategy is surely going to fall in that same category. This thing about reporting people for the kick is just dumb...

That said, I wouldn't have kicked you for it. You should just stop typing in chat if you don't want to follow the strategy. Stop arguing with people about it. They most likely wouldn't have even known that y9u did your own thing if you didn't draw attention to it.

I would love to see a source for this where the GMs stated that not following the group strategy is a reasonable reason for botting someone from the Party. And where kicking someone for wathcing a cutscene is also looked at as a reasonable excuse. if you cannot find these sources then please, don't spout this nonsense.

[Riepah]

I would love to see a source for this where the GMs stated that not following the group strategy is a reasonable reason for botting someone from the Party. And where kicking someone for wathcing a cutscene is also looked at as a reasonable excuse. if you cannot find these sources then please, don't spout this nonsense.

I can confirm that SE's policy on "Vote Kick Abuse" is painfully close to "Vote Kick Abuse doesn't exist". You're perfectly allowed to kick people for being new, for being undergeared, for not doing what you want them to do. They call that "differing playstyles", and if you kick someone because they watched a cutscene, then that's the same, and not considered abuse, nor harassment. They basically said "If the majority of a group decides that this is a no cutscene run, then kicking someone for watching cutscenes is okay". I had a discussion about this with a GM. Sadly, the rule of thumb as far as kickvotes go is "Kick or be kicked", if there's a disagreement.

The only thing that's "really" prohibited, and labeled "Vote Kick Abuse" is kicking someone intentionally before a boss fight with the intention of keeping them from obtaining loot or the dungeon clear. Kicking for any other reason is fair game.

I would love to see the thread where the general consensus was 'kicking for watching cut scenes is fine.'

Because every thread I've seen like that, the overall view was that the people kicking for that are douchebags of the highest order of magnitude, and that they should go back to LoL and get back to trying to get people banned for not playing every match at a professional level.

Not talking about threads. Talking about SE's policy on what does and what doesn't constitute "Vote Kick Abuse".

[Cirgellon]

I would love to see a source for this where the GMs stated that not following the group strategy is a reasonable reason for botting someone from the Party. And where kicking someone for wathcing a cutscene is also looked at as a reasonable excuse. if you cannot find these sources then please, don't spout this nonsense.

I'd probably put in the effort to get you that source if you weren't acting like such an angry child. Grow up, kid...

[Nanaho]

I'd probably put in the effort to get you that source if you weren't acting like such an angry child. Grow up, kid...

Why does everyone use such a lame excuse such as this one, and many other common ones when asked to present a source? Makes you wonder, hmmm. And no im not angry, Ive not been kicked for anything stupid. But i dislike people saying "facts" with no backup from a reliable source.

[PetiteMalFleur]

Why does everyone use such a lame excuse such as this one, and many other common ones when asked to present a source? Makes you wonder, hmmm. And no im not angry, Ive not been kicked for anything stupid. But i dislike people saying "facts" with no backup from a reliable source.

I've seen screen shots and you can indeed vote kick for any reason. You can vote kick for low dps, watching cutscenes, dying, or not following the strat. I have vote kicked a df FCoB party member because their Garuda egi did more dps than them. They probably reported me but no gm will ever reprimand me for this.

The only time it is reportable is if the kick was preceeded by some form of verbal harassment. Then the harassment can be reported, but not the kick itself.

Edit: I found the gm response on this. Essentially if there is a conflict of any sort which arises players can use the vote kick option as a means to resolve the conflict. Players are not limited to only kicking for the reasons listed and can kick for other reasons as they creatively see fit. The OP and dps friend had a conflict where the alliance agreed upon a specific strat and they vocalized their dissent. The group opted to resolve this by vote kicking the friend, which is a valid reason.

Source

[Malevicton]

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I like how both sides of the "where's your source bro?" argument seem to have conveniently missed this post...

For the people who are too source-allergic to actually click the link before continuing to argue: "players are allowed to kick others for reasons of 'different playstyles' ... even if there is no option for this and the categorisation may be wrong in this case."

So yeah, that's as straight forward of an answer as possible. It's definitely allowed.

[Cirgellon]

Why does everyone use such a lame excuse such as this one, and many other common ones when asked to present a source? Makes you wonder, hmmm. And no im not angry, Ive not been kicked for anything stupid. But i dislike people saying "facts" with no backup from a reliable source.

Probably because you act like an angry child instead of trying to have a civil discussion. You clearly didn't just ask me to provide a source... When no one responds well to you, one would think that you would start to realize where the problem is.

Why don't you provide some proof that they consider this vote kick abuse? I would love to see it...