Kicked for not going into the belly in WoD

[Trespar]

I would love to see a source for this where the GMs stated that not following the group strategy is a reasonable reason for botting someone from the Party. And where kicking someone for wathcing a cutscene is also looked at as a reasonable excuse. if you cannot find these sources then please, don't spout this nonsense.

Here's an idea, make a ticket.

Going straight to the source is a great way of getting a proper answer.

You'll be shocked by how much you can get away with using the Vote Kick tool.

[SecretCrowds]

I see people talking about poor play. This isn't poor play. It is absolute refusal to cooperate for a strategy in a group based event. Perfectly justified kick in my opinion. Refusing to cooperate without proper reason is as good harassing the group.

[Nanaho]

I'd probably put in the effort to get you that source if you weren't acting like such an angry child. Grow up, kid...

Why does everyone use such a lame excuse such as this one, and many other common ones when asked to present a source? Makes you wonder, hmmm. And no im not angry, Ive not been kicked for anything stupid. But i dislike people saying "facts" with no backup from a reliable source.

[PetiteMalFleur]

Why does everyone use such a lame excuse such as this one, and many other common ones when asked to present a source? Makes you wonder, hmmm. And no im not angry, Ive not been kicked for anything stupid. But i dislike people saying "facts" with no backup from a reliable source.

I've seen screen shots and you can indeed vote kick for any reason. You can vote kick for low dps, watching cutscenes, dying, or not following the strat. I have vote kicked a df FCoB party member because their Garuda egi did more dps than them. They probably reported me but no gm will ever reprimand me for this.

The only time it is reportable is if the kick was preceeded by some form of verbal harassment. Then the harassment can be reported, but not the kick itself.

Edit: I found the gm response on this. Essentially if there is a conflict of any sort which arises players can use the vote kick option as a means to resolve the conflict. Players are not limited to only kicking for the reasons listed and can kick for other reasons as they creatively see fit. The OP and dps friend had a conflict where the alliance agreed upon a specific strat and they vocalized their dissent. The group opted to resolve this by vote kicking the friend, which is a valid reason.

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[Lilyanna]

I was against that, and so was he, but they did it anyway.

I have a question, if you please. Did you two state that outloud? It is usually 50/50 for me if I go in or not, but I don't say anything. After so many ppl get eaten, you can't get anymore in, I've seen it. However, if I stay out, I say nothing and just pewpew the wolfbane's (Or Swift + Titan if the healers are getting pummeled and tanks are MIA).

I'm not saying don't express your opinion or the way you want to do something but, silence is the best defense anyone can have sometimes, yeah, it could be called lame, but why start a fight? Why target yourself? Had no words been spoken, no one would have known to look at him, people are vicious like that, they will see he said something and watch him, thus, instead of putting it aside, they decided to kick him.

[Cirgellon]

Why does everyone use such a lame excuse such as this one, and many other common ones when asked to present a source? Makes you wonder, hmmm. And no im not angry, Ive not been kicked for anything stupid. But i dislike people saying "facts" with no backup from a reliable source.

Probably because you act like an angry child instead of trying to have a civil discussion. You clearly didn't just ask me to provide a source... When no one responds well to you, one would think that you would start to realize where the problem is.

Why don't you provide some proof that they consider this vote kick abuse? I would love to see it...

[Cirgellon]

I dont remember seeing "didn't follow our 1337 strats" as one of the options on the kick player option, i must be blind for not seeing that! Wow!

In reality though, your response to me was one of butthurt because of this post. You acted like a d-bag and then realized that I had just pointed out how wrong you are. Then you got all defensive and turned into a d-bag again...

As I said before... Grow up, kid...

[Malevicton]

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I like how both sides of the "where's your source bro?" argument seem to have conveniently missed this post...

For the people who are too source-allergic to actually click the link before continuing to argue: "players are allowed to kick others for reasons of 'different playstyles' ... even if there is no option for this and the categorisation may be wrong in this case."

So yeah, that's as straight forward of an answer as possible. It's definitely allowed.

[Hyouretsuzan]

Is it even possible for all 15 DPS to go in? I always see a few stray DPS outside the field because "Cerberus' hunger is sated" So they either get stuck on the purple slabber until it disappears, or they focus down the wolfsbane. Either way it's silly kicking DPS because you see them outside the belly. If the raid wiped because not enough DPS was inside the belly and died due to the unknowns, then it's a different story. But it doesn't warrant an immediate kick. Just explain what went wrong and try again.

[Mirakumi]

Honestly I don't think x person should be kicked for not going into belly. Especially if alliance was saying all dd in. One person not going in is not the end of the world.

In that in mind however - OP's friend was kicked due to a rager. If the entire party went in/ (Most likely healer went in too like derp.) / Healer figured out he couldn't heal OPs friend. If he was taking dmg outside tummy anyways... Healer probably got bitchy. Most healers kinda do. /shrug. Called vote kick.

Half of the time DD just like are tunnel vision they see vote kick and scan PT. OKAY. F that guy. We didn't need that other bard/job for said roll in the future.

End story.

Honestly that's probably what happened.