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  1. #1
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    Remilia_Nightfall's Avatar
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    Reimu Hakurei
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    At the end of the day, people want shiny pixel armor and weapons to show their epeen to the world.
    Savage is the proof of this.

    "I want a challenge because I am cool!"
    "Here, have this Savage T7"
    "Butbut does it drop shinies"
    "No."
    "Then it does not count!"

    Challenge should be its own reward.

    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    I would agree with this if the hardest content in the game were solo content. But like most (likely all) MMOs, the hardest content requires not just a skilled player, but a whole team of skilled players who are familiar with each other's gameplay.

    Many players have real lives that don't allow for their gaming to follow the sort of regular predictable schedule that would make it possible to join a static group. No matter how skilled they are at the game, their job, and the specific content they're trying to complete, they can still only complete content that can be done by one skilled player and 7 other random unknown people that joined their PUG. The only content that's available to all paying players is content that's PUGable.

    That leaves the only options as:

    1) Make the hardest content in the game easy enough to do in a pick up group. Of course, this is going to anger any statics who want challenging group content.

    2) Exclude most of their paying customers from any access to the content they're paying for.

    3) Make sure all the rewards are available through easier content, and that the most challenging content simply provides somewhat faster access to them, along with the pride and enjoyment that comes from the challenge itself.
    You know, it's not like people are FORCED to play this game. If someone does not meet the requirements to clear endgame, well, I am sorry, but that is how it is.

    It is like whining I cannot be world champion in long jump because I do not have time to train, but I want to win the prize anyway.
    At this point, why not removing gear and drops completely? Let's give every piece of gear, every title, and every mount to everyone, but hey, let's leave the hard encounters in the game. Everyone will be happy!
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    Last edited by Remilia_Nightfall; 05-14-2015 at 07:07 PM.

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    Neuflune Mochiko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall View Post
    At the end of the day, people want shiny pixel armor and weapons to show their epeen to the world.
    Savage is the proof of this.

    "I want a challenge because I am cool!"
    "Here, have this Savage T7"
    "Butbut does it drop shinies"
    "No."
    "Then it does not count!"

    Challenge should be its own reward.
    This makes me very curious about English servers, because on Carbuncle I regularly see Savage groups in party finder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neuflune View Post
    This makes me very curious about English servers, because on Carbuncle I regularly see Savage groups in party finder.
    I am sure that there are servers where this happens.

    But it is definitely not the norm, at least on English ones.
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neuflune View Post
    This makes me very curious about English servers, because on Carbuncle I regularly see Savage groups in party finder.
    For T7 Savage though? T7 Savage is supposedly the hardest Turn due to how absolutely unforgiving it is and how perfect everyone needs to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    For T7 Savage though? T7 Savage is supposedly the hardest Turn due to how absolutely unforgiving it is and how perfect everyone needs to be.
    No idea because the Party Finder does not display the Turn number (it cuts off at Sava...). Server just got back up and there's already a Savage group at party finder though.
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