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  1. #771
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    Tocsin Wolndara
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorvan View Post
    Fortunately, Square's rules only apply to Square's forums. There are numerous sites to post including but not limited to ZAM, massivelyop, mmorpg.com, tentonhammer, mmosite, etc.,etc, etc.

    And in fact, it doesn't even have to be FFXIV exclusive. An actual day where ALL anti-RMT gamers in ALL mmos collectively make their displeasure known to their respective mmo devs via the most useful tool at their disposal: their wallet.
    and what about the console gamers. How many people do you know, that play on playstations, that dont even have a PC? the dont even look at any of these sites? FFXIV is unique in that aspect, that they can tap the masses of people who do not stay actually informed, and only play because they saw it at gamestop and it looked fun.

    However, I support the initiative. if you need any direct help setting it up, feel free to contact me in-game and i may be able to help out.
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  2. #772
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    I think SE is behind a lot of these RMTs, maybe they get a cut from the RMTs which is why nothing is being done about them. One way to avoid having to deal with RMTs is to go /busy, no more tells or annoying friend invites. Its annoying that we should even have to do this but its a way around it for now until SE gets off there butts and does something about it.
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  3. #773
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    Zefis Shadowsea
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickolus123 View Post
    I think SE is behind a lot of these RMTs, maybe they get a cut from the RMTs which is why nothing is being done about them. One way to avoid having to deal with RMTs is to go /busy, no more tells or annoying friend invites. Its annoying that we should even have to do this but its a way around it for now until SE gets off there butts and does something about it.
    I don't think SE gets a cut from the RMTs, although most of the RMTs they ban create another account which they pay SE for. It also boosts their subscription # figure. They can also post bans up to say they're doing something about the situation, but at this point that doesn't satisfy many people anymore. The question is, is the benefit this cycle creates worth the amount of $ they'll lose from new players come HW? I'd say the answer is no, hence why new measures need to be implemented.
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  4. #774
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zabuza View Post
    I don't think SE gets a cut from the RMTs, although most of the RMTs they ban create another account which they pay SE for. It also boosts their subscription # figure.
    Considering the 5-7k per week, every week, for 52 weeks, would equal roughly 350k accounts, not even counting accounts that RMT has abandoned due to chargebacks closing them down.

    I would not be surprised if, out of their claim of 4 million accounts registered, 25% or more of them belonged to RMT. that is a huge chunk of profits.
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  5. #775
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    /signed

    They have been getting increasingly annoying. For a while it was fine but then they returned full force.
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  6. #776
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    Quote Originally Posted by tocsin View Post
    Considering the 5-7k per week, every week, for 52 weeks, would equal roughly 350k accounts, not even counting accounts that RMT has abandoned due to chargebacks closing them down.

    I would not be surprised if, out of their claim of 4 million accounts registered, 25% or more of them belonged to RMT. that is a huge chunk of profits.
    This is an unfortunate reality when it comes to subscription mmos. Every person you ban, rightly or wrongly, is a subscription lost. In the case of RMT, they'll happily buy another copy and start a new subscription as they'll make the money back off the first couple sales. So truth be told, it's profitable for a dev to let them run amok for a month or two, then ban them so another purchase price can be had.
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  7. #777
    Interesting that there has not been on reply from a dev on this......
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  8. #778
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sartori View Post
    Interesting that there has not been on reply from a dev on this......
    I'd be more surprised if there was one in the first place. If there is one i expect it to be "typical staff responses" toward issues.

    You know the ones!
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  9. #779
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    Sylvia Vandurien
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    The amount of, "I'm angry cause of stuff that every MMO deals with, so im posting angry posts" in this thread makes me giggle like a schoolgirl. Even better is the fact people still think "Petition" threads do anything.

    Facts:
    1. RMT sucks and the Devs know this.
    2. CM's scan threads/posts for rule breakers, not opportunities to reply to every angry posters demands.
    3. "Petition" threads serve only to annoy CM's/Dev's/Everyone involved. They already know its a problem, the fact they haven't done anything about it means they either have more important things to worry about *cough*Heavensward*cough*, or they haven't found a reasonable solution to the issue.
    4. This is the internet, and assuming anything you post has any more validity to it than the next person's post is absurd, especially when it comes to how companies should run their business ("SE should do this about the issue")
    5. Rainbows

    Have a nice day
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  10. #780
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    At this point i'm starting to suspect SE of RMT and botting to inflate numbers. I witness 3 events in 2 hours one of which i reported and noone ever got back to me. 7 hours later the bot train was still rolling. Then there was the the blm's invisible inside the map. I had to go to battle log to get names of the 2 and later saw them again one dead, i can only assume he wasn't fully submerged in the map to avoid acid sprays.


    ~off Topic~

    This is off topic but i get into my 1st dungeon on new character and the blm and nin are in some kind of war with each other and me for enmity. (By attacking the same time i do or unloading after i hit mob once in a pack of 4, lol. I love FF but these things i listed made me log out yesterday after an extended break of many months, and question whether i even want the expansion i pre-ordered but am still waiting to actually buy because they don't charge for the product until tomorrow or some other convoluted bs.... Meanwhile the dates in the character screen still overlap like 7 and 8th day still both say 7, or in one month the 14th and 15th both say 14th and 16th is 15th and 17th is 17th. This was a beta bug. The bugs with controller and map still exist. so many little things, like my gladiator and the carpenter having same stance still. Why do you think it cool to try and take threat for yourself as dps? We can see you aren't attacking the same mob as rest of us, we can tell when you jump the gun in a fight. Do you really want to be the next to ko if i die? lol
    My point is that yoshi-p has stated they are 4 years ahead of us maybe it was planning. This worries me because it shows they are not looking back. While the blm changes give me hope that elements will matter in HW and that they are listening if only a little does that mean that the older content just falls to wayside for the remainder of FFXIV existence?
    Wow I just went way off topic. Better end my rant here.
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    Last edited by Amatsuhira; 05-14-2015 at 09:04 PM.

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