Entitled DPS, please stop being entitled

[Shug]

Funny how everyone against the op are dps's. When you have to wait for the queues, either kick the tank and hope you get a pushover that will bow to your whim, or suck it up and do your job. Unless you want to tank in your robe or leather armor.

[SDaemon]

Funny how everyone against the op are dps's. When you have to wait for the queues, either kick the tank and hope you get a pushover that will bow to your whim, or suck it up and do your job. Unless you want to tank in your robe or leather armor.

Nah, I'll just queue as a tank or healer if I don't feel like waiting as a dps. Awesome how this game lets you play more than one role/job. Having said that, there isn't some great divide between the tank and the rest of the group. It isn't tank vs 3 other players here.

[Kikoten]

Funny how everyone against the op are dps's. When you have to wait for the queues, either kick the tank and hope you get a pushover that will bow to your whim, or suck it up and do your job. Unless you want to tank in your robe or leather armor.

I was healing Stone Vigil once. One of the DPSes ran ahead of the tank and pulled the second boss. Tank gave him a strict talking-to for it. DPS' friend, a Black Mage, said rude things about the tank's ability to manage aggro, and then proceeded to say, "I can solo any boss."

I lol'd. And I lol'd even harder when the tank let him have the last boss of the run for about 10 seconds. The dragon nearly took his head off every time it bit him.

You may be wondering what my response has to do with this thread.

Absolutely nothing.

[TetsuyaHikari]

I get what you're trying to say, but you sabotaged your own argument by being entitled yourself, lol. DPS are entitled, tanks are entitled, and so are healers. You go in as a party, so act like one and discuss it before starting.

[Adire]

I get what you're trying to say, but you sabotaged your own argument by being entitled yourself, lol. DPS are entitled, tanks are entitled, and so are healers. You go in as a party, so act like one and discuss it before starting.

I am entitled to do my job as a tank if I am a tank. That is not true entitlement, as tanks are asking for no special privileges to pull, just doing their jobs. DPS are not entitled to do a tank's job if they aren't tanks. Believing themselves to have the right to is believing themselves to have special privileges to do things that are not within their job.

Glad to see that people who have posted here since I've gone have been more civil though. And no, this isn't sarcasm.

[Whiteroom]

Entitled players, please stop being entitled?

[Adire]

Entitled players, please stop being entitled?

That's essentially what my OP is saying and what my posts throughout the thread are saying, despite the title's seeming otherwise.

In this situation, which mobs to be pulled was the disagreement. A tie in wishes ensued. The DPS and healer attempted to step out of their roles to forcefully receive their demands and ignore compromise by the DPS pulling mobs and the healer refusing to heal, while the tank (me) offered compromise and was rudely told no, and decided to continue doing my job.

It's not entitled or asking special privileges to do your job in the face of a deadlock if compromise is offered. It is however entitled to try to take over someone else's job or refuse to do your job to get what you want.

Just reminding folks of that

[Hiruke]

Funny how everyone against the op are dps's. When you have to wait for the queues, either kick the tank and hope you get a pushover that will bow to your whim, or suck it up and do your job. Unless you want to tank in your robe or leather armor.

Just because of what the "main class" says on the forum? I tank lots of dungeons, as I implied in my prior post if I'm remembering right. OP is basically saying dps shouldn't be entitled, only tanks can be entitled, and that's kind of a jerk way of looking at it. I think everyone should try to get along. If someone in the party is a jerk, that's on them, not their role. There are lots of jerks from each role, because the players are still people, and people are jerks.

[Hiruke]

That's essentially what my OP is saying and what my posts throughout the thread are saying, despite the title's seeming otherwise.

Probably should have written it and titled it differently then, right?

[Adire]

Probably should have written it and titled it differently then, right?

Yep! As I've said before though, title editing is not possible. I also did not have the benefit of hindsight at the time.

And I possibly expected too much that people would value the content of my posts over the cover of the book. First impressions are important of course though, and I'd edit the title if I could.

Just because of what the "main class" says on the forum? I tank lots of dungeons, as I implied in my prior post if I'm remembering right. OP is basically saying dps shouldn't be entitled, only tanks can be entitled, and that's kind of a jerk way of looking at it. I think everyone should try to get along. If someone in the party is a jerk, that's on them, not their role. There are lots of jerks from each role, because the players are still people, and people are jerks.

Edit: Also, it's not asking for special privileges if a tank pulls or decides how to pull in a tie with no compromise as they are simply doing their job. It is asking special privileges however if a DPS pulls and a healer threatens to not heal if the tank doesn't submit to their demands.

I also do not condone tanks ignoring the majority or saying no to people who ask for clears like decent human beings, as mentioned in my OP and throughout the thread.

I'm not "basically saying DPS can't be entitled while tanks can be". You are misunderstanding or misreading if you think so. What I am saying is that you should treat people with respect, especially if you want something, and you should let tanks do their jobs, especially if no one can agree on anything.