The constant disbanding of Steps of Faith

[SDaemon]

Even perfectly executed, that's still a huge chunk of damage you have to do without mechanics, so I fail to see how you're refuting my point.



Body Slam = 1 shot to non-tanks
Sidewise Swipe = even if you dodge this, you can still get 1 shot by an exploding cannon
someone shoots 2nd/3rd dragonkiller at wrong time = whoops, you just killed your party

Uhh, yeah, there are 1 shot mechanics here.

Did you just equate misfiring DKs to a one shot mechanic? O.o

[Fynlar]

Did you just equate misfiring DKs to a one shot mechanic? O.o

Yes, when Vishap goes into the air to dodge it and crashes back down, I have been killed from full HP as a result of that.

[SDaemon]

Yes, when Vishap goes into the air to dodge it and crashes back down, I have been killed from full HP as a result of that.

That isn't a one shot mechanic -____- Just because an attack has the possibility of bringing you from full HP to zero doesn't make it a 1 shot mechanic.

[EZ5902]

There is one thing i do find a bit of a bane actually, is when we die, specifically when healing, is that we are shoved straight in battle again as soon as we are revived with no chance of passive MP regen or even TP regen for the melees and certain skills might even be on CD, more so for tanks since they have no way to restore TP.

So, maybe give everyone half MP and TP for this trial, I think full MP/TP would get exploited.

[kyuven]

There is one thing i do find a bit of a bane actually, is when we die, specifically when healing, is that we are shoved straight in battle again as soon as we are revived with no chance of passive MP regen or even TP regen for the melees and certain skills might even be on CD, more so for tanks since they have no way to restore TP.

So, maybe give everyone half MP and TP for this trial, I think full MP/TP would get exploited.

Also if everyone dies, the mobs don't lose aggro
Not that it matters at that point since the fight is pretty much lost if everyone dies *hint hint SE* but being dead AND fighting off the hordes of mobs that killed you is like anti-fun.

[EZ5902]

Also if everyone dies, the mobs don't lose aggro
Not that it matters at that point since the fight is pretty much lost if everyone dies *hint hint SE* but being dead AND fighting off the hordes of mobs that killed you is like anti-fun.

Ah yes, of course, in that case perhaps players could force a fail if they all dead at once then. This would bypass the loooong wait, waiting for it to fail automatically.

[kyuven]

Ah yes, of course, in that case perhaps players could force a fail if they all dead at once then. This would bypass the loooong wait, waiting for it to fail automatically.

My idea is if all 8 players are in the entry area or too far away from Visahp at the same time for more than 60 seconds, the encounter auto-fails.

[Fynlar]

That isn't a one shot mechanic -____- Just because an attack has the possibility of bringing you from full HP to zero doesn't make it a 1 shot mechanic.

Really? I'm curious then, how do you define 1-shot mechanics? Because whatever your definition is is surely strange to me.

[Twilite]

Officially saddened.

..because people other than your circle of friends has a shot at getting into ishgard and not wasting money on an expansion they can't play?

This isn't ONLY about players who are unwilling to learn.

[Illya]

Really? I'm curious then, how do you define 1-shot mechanics? Because whatever your definition is is surely strange to me.

A oneshot mechanic takes you instantly to zero regardless of how much HP you have. If the amount of damage taken is a fixed value and it's possible to survive with enough gear, Stoneskin, Succor, Adlo, Storm's Path, Dragon Kick, tank LB, etc. then it's by definition not a oneshot mechanic.

Twister in T5 is a oneshot mechanic. It doesn't matter if you have 1 HP or 99,999 HP. If you get caught in it, you die instantly. There are plenty of other examples throughout Coil of similar mechanics.