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  1. #101
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    kyuven's Avatar
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    Chen Kotomi
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    Archer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    Usually, beating the optional / side dungouns makes the final dungouns a joke... If you can beat the Weapons of FFvii, you'll have no problem with sephi.

    The only game that broke this mold for me was Tales of Vesperia. If you did an optional quest, THEY GAVE THE FINAL BOSS AN EXTRA FORM THAT WAS EVEN HARDER...

    Oh god I love that game.
    At least one of the Star Ocean games did that too.
    Except they didn't really warn you and the quest was just a cryptic as hell Private Action in one of the towns.
    The result was the hardest boss in the game that I only managed to beat because one of my weapons proc'd a death effect (which is extremely rare)
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  2. #102
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    Tri Edge
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    Marilith
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia View Post
    Want to solve the Steps of Faith problem?

    Put a Triple Triad card in it.
    Put Cloud in it and everyone who ever wanted a clear would get it.
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  3. #103
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I am guessing

    SoF nerf.
    FCOB mechanics nerf.
    Primal themes.
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  4. #104
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    Yoku Dekimashita
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    Nothing to write home about I'm guess.
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  5. #105
    Player Eidolon's Avatar
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    Muhau Nbolo
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    At least one of the Star Ocean games did that too.
    Except they didn't really warn you and the quest was just a cryptic as hell Private Action in one of the towns.
    The result was the hardest boss in the game that I only managed to beat because one of my weapons proc'd a death effect (which is extremely rare)
    Yea. Looks like they're both basically in the same vein - some of the hardest fights in the game, triggered by doing optional content. In ToV, you got it by collecting all the weapons (which is something you had to purposely do - usually completing puzzles to get them. But a player might not understand the repurcussions until it's too late)

    God I love these games. xD
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  6. #106
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    Wizel Balan
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    Put Star Ocean 2 on "Universe" Difficulty then remove the final bosses limiter
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  7. #107
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    Asahina Karayami
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    Botanist Lv 90
    Well Im pretty sure the new patch can nerf anything but the RMT flood :C
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  8. #108
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    Tea Mysidia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiritreaver1217 View Post
    Nah, buffing up for the final fight in past FF titles usually means being leveled up enough. Bonus or extra dungeons/content have things that no doubt help, but they aren't necessary to win.

    Take my fav FF title, FF6-i know for a fact i skipped a ton of side quests and the like(heck i didn't even get Realm back first time through) and i didn't have any issue on the last boss after i was high enough level.
    Well you either level grind or get the bonus stuff.
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  9. #109
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    Sentinel Smith
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    The biggest mystery of this thread is how a bunch of people who apparently turn their nose up at the Duty Finder have a problem with people using the Duty Finder. If you don't use it and "form a group by talking to people" on your server, then why the hell would you care whether "bad" players clear it or not?

    Furthermore, storyline content should not be too difficult, because a lot of people who AREN'T going to raid or farm dungeons all day are playing for the story. There's plenty of room for hard content and easy content to coexist.

    We all like to show off our big ol' e-peens and show how dominant we are over the internet, but not everyone playing FFXIV is playing it how you play it or for the same reasons you are. Don't force your methods on others, because you CLEARLY don't like theirs being forced on you. (Also, hint: Their method makes more money for SE.)
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  10. #110
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    Squires Ailith
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinun View Post
    Put Cloud in it and everyone who ever wanted a clear would get it.
    Not really. It you put a drop in there, people will just create farm parties in PF and say experienced players only,no noobs, 1 fail = kick.
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