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  1. #91
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    Altanas's Avatar
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    Altanas Aidendale
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Steps of Faith should not even be an Instance/Trial.

    It should have harkened back to early ARR and simply been a series of openworld high level FATEs.

    Add in rewards, allied seals or tomes as well as GC seals as the reward, and you would have encouraged the senior players to keep coming back to help sorta like Behemoth.

    What better way to lead into Ishguard than a FATE train of happy cooperative players.

    At the moment, Steps of Faith is the Promyvion or COP 2.5 Mammet fight of FF14

    (And I cleared it on first DF run so I am not being angry)

    But back on topic, 2.57 will most likely be:

    1. Improved Echo for Chrysalis and SOF
    2. More nerfs to Relic quests.. please
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  2. #92
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    Eul's Avatar
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    Knot Destroyer
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    Asura
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Step of Faith isn't really hard, once our party can finish it before Vishra destroy the last barrier. But the annoying part is when people do Roulette Trial and instant rage quit because "oh fuck this trial will take long time to finish. better leave immediately."

    Patch 2.57? Perhaps only the Step of Faith nerf requested by "people" who want finish it quickly
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  3. #93
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    Lala Rayne
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    Arcanist Lv 15
    Quote Originally Posted by Starcade View Post
    Regrettably, I have to agree with you.

    Seriously, I think they took one look at the number/percentage of players who've cleared 2.55 Part II and they cannot be pleased!
    really that low I've managed to pass it on my 2 alts its not a cake walk fight but its not that impossible.. i still think like the odin fight they should just increase the ilvl to a sensible one giving ppl the need to get there better ilvl to pass it not just sponge of the back of geared players.. then again your always going to get the arses who if they can't one shot carry off a group they will just bounce around df till they find a group..
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  4. #94
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    MistyMew's Avatar
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    Misty Mew
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    Hyperion
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    ...I am going to just see what the patch entails when it happens, certainly the most logical thing to do.
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  5. #95
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by T2teddy View Post
    The only thing SoF needs is the same thing every other boss fight in this game has, but SoF does not. What might that be, you ask?
    Group dies = reset.

    SoF makes us waste precious time despite it being obvious the group will not be able to stop Vishap. We need a chance for reset, period.
    But in other trials you also can't just use return and rejoin the fight. You would have to wait until everyone died.
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  6. #96
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    Tea Mysidia
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    Phoenix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorvan View Post

    What I think many forget is this is a Final Fantasy game. Just like a Star Wars game ( SWtOR ), there are many people who want to play it simply for what Final Fantasy is primarily known for: story. They could care less about BIS gear or slogging through mandatory dungeons just to unlock the next bit of story. It's just like the singleplayer FF rpgs. You'll have people who will grind out the xp to get 9,999 stats, hunt down and kill an Omega Weapon, etc.; and then there are people who just aren't good enough or motivated enough for all that, they simply do the bare minimum to eek through and enjoy the story.
    Well, I wish them good luck with that. There are plenty of mandatory FF bosses that will eat you for breakfast if you are not prepared. And usually the end dungeon is all but impossible unless you did most of the bonus content to buff yourself up.
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  7. #97
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    Spiritreaver E'kenere
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    Diabolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    But in other trials you also can't just use return and rejoin the fight. You would have to wait until everyone died.
    Can't you do that in battle on the Big Bridge? Its been a while since i've done it, but i wanna say i remember dying and just returning to start to skip weakness. I could be wrong though.
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  8. #98
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    Well, I wish them good luck with that. There are plenty of mandatory FF bosses that will eat you for breakfast if you are not prepared. And usually the end dungeon is all but impossible unless you did most of the bonus content to buff yourself up.
    Nah, buffing up for the final fight in past FF titles usually means being leveled up enough. Bonus or extra dungeons/content have things that no doubt help, but they aren't necessary to win.

    Take my fav FF title, FF6-i know for a fact i skipped a ton of side quests and the like(heck i didn't even get Realm back first time through) and i didn't have any issue on the last boss after i was high enough level.
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  9. #99
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    MicahZerrshia's Avatar
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    Nadja Zielle
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Want to solve the Steps of Faith problem?

    Put a Triple Triad card in it.
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  10. #100
    Player Eidolon's Avatar
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    Muhau Nbolo
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiritreaver1217 View Post
    Nah, buffing up for the final fight in past FF titles usually means being leveled up enough. Bonus or extra dungeons/content have things that no doubt help, but they aren't necessary to win.

    Take my fav FF title, FF6-i know for a fact i skipped a ton of side quests and the like(heck i didn't even get Realm back first time through) and i didn't have any issue on the last boss after i was high enough level.
    Usually, beating the optional / side dungouns makes the final dungouns a joke... If you can beat the Weapons of FFvii, you'll have no problem with sephi.

    The only game that broke this mold for me was Tales of Vesperia. If you did an optional quest, THEY GAVE THE FINAL BOSS AN EXTRA FORM THAT WAS EVEN HARDER...

    Oh god I love that game.
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