Any idea what is in patch 2.57?

**Whocareswhatmynameis** · 05-12-2015 02:13 AM

Originally Posted by RiceisNice

Though objectively, something like SoF is required for 3.0 expansion, and it's not a good tactic to make it difficult/different to the point that you have a really really poor clear rate (which honestly should be 100% or close to it for expansion gating)... Bad players or not, they're paying for the game and it's what keeps it ticking.

I think this is exactly the part where people are getting upset. If you nerf Steps of Faith till you get 100% clear rate (this means people that know nothing about the fight but can still beat it). Then you have to do that for all of Heavensward too or "they will be gated out of the expansion they paid for". Which means the whole game just becomes a snoozefest.

This whole game is a catch 22. You put in mechanics, it makes the game fun but people fail more often. If you take away the mechanics (or the requirement to do them properly), the game is boring tank and spank with 100% clear rates, AKA Garuda HM.

**Ablongman** · 05-12-2015 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by Jamein

The reason you see the end game players complaining about nerfs, is because there is very little difficult content in this game. So when SE takes away what little content we have, it gets a little annoying. Although to say that's destroying the game is an overstatement. This whole thing works both ways though.

How long are the Coils out before they nerf them, though? It's not exactly taking away "difficult content" when the nerfs hit months after it came out and the people still toiling away at it have the benefit of Augmented/Dreadwyrm gear to soft-nerf it and are still barely clearing. Actual progression groups were basically done farming FCoB by the time the first set of real nerfs rolled about.

Those who're actually hardcore have been clearing and farming FCoB for a long time now, so coming here and QQing about nerfs that don't affect anything but their ability to say they've done something you haven't DOES make them douchebags.

The same thing applies to Steps of Fail. It's a main story requirement, mang. It didn't (or shouldn't have) given hardcore players pause, yet they all scurry out to lament it being adjusted so peeps who just want to be Heavensward-ready can advance. It's precisely stuff like this that creates the divide you're referencing. People asking for difficulty and struggle and "work" where it is neither needed nor desirable. Thankfully, I think SE know better than to pander to these people at this point.

**Purrfectstorm** · 05-12-2015 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by Ablongman

Those who're actually hardcore have been clearing and farming FCoB for a long time now, so coming here and QQing about nerfs that don't affect anything but their ability to say they've done something you haven't DOES make them douchebags.

Sorry I'm going to pick on this comment here because I hear ones like it a lot. I don't think it makes someone a jerk to want to feel special for a little while because they worked hard for their prize. People wanting to "say they've done something others haven't" is a driving force for competition in games. SE realizes this and that's why there's some level of exclusivity for some prizes/content. There's a ton of content that isn't exclusive and very little content that is exclusive. I'm not against nerfs mind you because I like the idea that everyone will eventually get their chance to complete all the content but the very best stuff in the game should be reserved for the very best groups, at least for a time.

On a related note, I think pushing the game to either extreme of casual content anyone can clear or super hard content where you need to both have voice chat and be extremely picky about your groups (no noobs, 1-strike = kick) is wrong. The game needs both types of content and both types of players. Let's all try to get along and stop demonizing groups because they play differently than we do.

**Mature** · 05-11-2015 05:33 PM

Infrastructure sounds a bit like Mor Dhona growing bigger or adding area? Rowena gets her own island? Who knows

**Tint** · 05-11-2015 08:43 PM

i think they will increase the pony droprate and higher echobuff in fcob

**Asierid** · 05-12-2015 02:19 AM

Doubt they'll touch SoF. Titan HM was the same cockblock back in 2.0, people just had to deal with it until Echo came out or actually learn to play the game correctly for once.

It will be the same case here. Only thing they would do that is even feasible is removing the turtle, but that wouldn't even fix anything because most people already suck at using the cannons.

**Tannlore** · 05-12-2015 05:38 AM

Originally Posted by Asierid

Doubt they'll touch SoF. Titan HM was the same cockblock back in 2.0, people just had to deal with it until Echo came out or actually learn to play the game correctly for once.

It will be the same case here. Only thing they would do that is even feasible is removing the turtle, but that wouldn't even fix anything because most people already suck at using the cannons.

Hate to burst your bubble bub but..

Originally Posted by Grekumah

Thanks for your feedback.

Adjustments to ease the Steps of Faith trial are in the works, and we'll be announcing more information about the how and when soon enough!

**Asierid** · 05-12-2015 07:52 AM

Originally Posted by Tannlore

Hate to burst your bubble bub but..

Clearly you do not know how SE operates. The patch will be...

-We added one more cannon to Steps of Faith.

or

-We put giant arrows on the cannons in Steps of Faith.

Please look forward to it.

**RyuDragnier** · 05-12-2015 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by Asierid

Clearly you do not know how SE operates. The patch will be...

-We added one more cannon to Steps of Faith.

or

-We put giant arrows on the cannons in Steps of Faith.

Please look forward to it.

Nahh, it'll be a Vote Reset option for the trial. That way people can do more attempts without waiting so long.

**Maero** · 05-12-2015 02:33 AM

Would be nice to have a QOL improvement, like say dungeon drop rate increase for Relic. Currently it's been hell and i regret doing another Relic, lol
Nightmare mount increase would be nice perhaps also since all other ponies have been increased, though since they are more rare perhaps it is best to leave as is so not all have it

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