Will you quit if this game becomes raid-centric?

[Jennestia]

I swear most people don't know the difference between NMs and Ground Kings (HNMs), the latter which a lot of people universally hated to camp, the former most wanted to camp because it pushed their job further (for example, Mary's Horn was the only true way to enhance Lullaby duration outside of abilities.)

[Raze]

I swear most people don't know the difference between NMs and Ground Kings (HNMs), the latter which a lot of people universally hated to camp, the former most wanted to camp because it pushed their job further (for example, Mary's Horn was the only true way to enhance Lullaby duration outside of abilities.)

^ this - people complain that people talk about XI too much but in truth they're making valid points and the reader doesn't understand the terminology

[TirionCrey]

I swear most people don't know the difference between NMs and Ground Kings (HNMs), the latter which a lot of people universally hated to camp, the former most wanted to camp because it pushed their job further (for example, Mary's Horn was the only true way to enhance Lullaby duration outside of abilities.)

And I swear your reading comprehension lacks just as much as Visch's common sense. We all know the difference between NMs and HNMs, but that's just terms, no law! Great Buffalo, Dodore, Mossy, Goblin etc ARE HNMS considered the amount of people needed to kill them and their focus on dropping Rank capped stuff. BUT they are called NMs in XIV and just cause they are named HNMs in XI doesn't mean they need to be named HNMs in XIV as well. Stuff like Roc, Simurgh etc were HNMs as well and they got implemented with Lvl cap at 55.

You seem to fail at getting that ALL we talk about are NMs(in comparison to HNMs in XI), we call them NMs though cause that's what they are called in XIV so far.

@Visch: Lol I just took the time to check your lodestone profile...I killed Batraal one day before you...and I don't even consider myself hardcore anymore compared to XI...so go figure MUPPET...and I won' even mention your ranked stuff compared to mine...

[Jennestia]

And I swear your reading comprehension lacks just as much as Visch's common sense. We all know the difference between NMs and HNMs, but that's just terms, no law! Great Buffalo, Dodore, Mossy, Goblin etc ARE HNMS considered the amount of people needed to kill them and their focus on dropping Rank capped stuff. BUT they are called NMs in XIV and just cause they are named HNMs in XI doesn't mean they need to be named HNMs in XIV as well. Stuff like Roc, Simurgh etc were HNMs as well and they got implemented with Lvl cap at 55.

For someone to talk about one's reading comprehension you sure seem to lack it yourself, and here's why:

BUT they are called NMs in XIV and just cause they are named HNMs in XI doesn't mean they need to be named HNMs in XIV as well.

Who said they needed to be named HNMs? I certainly didn't. Also, a lot of the Abyssea NMs that drop good stuff can take quite a bit of people as well and they aren't HNMs, some can be low manned, but in generally you're with at least 8 people, so no, before you go and tell someone else they have bad reading comprehension you should think about your own especially when people bring up that "spending hours in dragon's aery" clearly mean they're confusing what people mean by NM camping as you don't regularly camp Fafnir/Nidhogg (even now you can just spawn them with an item) which as I said:

I swear most people don't know the difference between NMs and Ground Kings (HNMs), the latter which a lot of people universally hated to camp

Select few actually liked to camp HNMs. I certainly didn't. Oh and by the way, I've seen (and done) the 'HNMs' in FFXIV with few people, especially post update where SE adjusted them, if we're calling these comparable to HNMs the Ogre Boss would be more close to an HNM than any of the world spawns currently strength wise.

[TirionCrey]

For someone to talk about one's reading comprehension you sure seem to lack it yourself, and here's why:



Who said they needed to be named HNMs? I certainly didn't. Also, a lot of the Abyssea NMs that drop good stuff can take quite a bit of people as well and they aren't HNMs, some can be low manned, but in generally you're with at least 8 people, so no, before you go and tell someone else they have bad reading comprehension you should think about your own especially when people bring up that "spending hours in dragon's aery" clearly mean they're confusing what people mean by NM camping as you don't regularly camp Fafnir/Nidhogg (even now you can just spawn them with an item) which as I said:



Select few actually liked to camp HNMs. I certainly didn't. Oh and by the way, I've seen (and done) the 'HNMs' in FFXIV with few people, especially post update where SE adjusted them, if we're calling these comparable to HNMs the Ogre Boss would be more close to an HNM than any of the world spawns currently strength wise.

What is it you don't get? I'm not talking about the stupid stuff like Phaia, Sirocco or anything...these are NMs...they were meant to be NMs(comparable to regular NMs in XI).

Buffalo, Dodore, Ogre, Batraal etc would be HNMs in FFXI terms, but still they are called NMs, that's what I was getting at. You accused people that they don't know what they are talking about when all people talked about were NMs(THOSE that are considered endgame NMs, so HNMs in XI terms)...nobody ever talked about stupid low rank BS NMs in XIV...this thread is about "raid centric" so a monkey could tell its about endgame NMs only...

PS: Ground Kings were the name for Aspi, KB and Nidhogg only...not for all HNMs...