Jobs you feel yoshi and team got wrong

[Risvertasashi]

SMN. I mean I love the sound of it, I love what it should represent, it's been my first and has remained my main job, but SWEET MENPHINA the execution, the way it's implemented specifically in here is just... totally uninspiring.

Have you ever played FFX? It's really well done there. It's relatively powerful since the summon fights for the whole party but... Well, if SE had done that, just balanced down the scale to the single DPS person (and at 33% their models would will be bigger and more impressive than egis), I'd switch to SMN in a heartbeat.

[Keylus]

BRD-- I miss the XI version of BRD or more importantly the ability to have 2 songs going at the same time.

Play 2 song at the same time is nonsense, nobody can play 2 songs at the same time


In the SMN the pet does nearly to nothing, you just summon it at the beginning and let it do damage, you just use contagion if it is garuda. They should change the name to Doter or Booksmacker

[Krisan]

SMN definitely isn't where it needs to be. Graphical quips aside (the Egi's are meh in appearance) the class plays nothing like a traditional Summoner. I know comparisons to XI are often in bad taste around here, but for all the problems SMN had in XI, it at least had the fundamental "feeling" of being a Summoner. Everything you did was through your pet there, which is how I feel like it should be in XIV.

I also think BLM got a bit of a weird shakeup. While I don't hate it mechanically (it works) I don't agree with the design either. Eliminating the elemental wheel from the mechanics-side of things has desperately dumbed down the class compared to every other installment of FF. On the same note, I see no reason for us to have elemental resistances when we have no genuine elemental offense. This aspect of the game just feels rushed and unpolished to me.

And.. Yes, BRD too has some problems in my opinion. I understand that they didn't want to go full-on support right away, that they wanted to focus only on the holy trinity.. but ugh, Bard is traditionally support, and too many Bard's are not using their support songs as is because of this decision. It needs more songs \ support skills, and more incentive to use them. Maybe nerf their damage a bit, but give them a damage buff song that increases their damage as well as everyone elses, as an example. And make some of their songs work like as a timed buff, instead of having them all maintained - it's just not very interesting as it is.

[BreathlessTao]

Have you ever played FFX? It's really well done there. It's relatively powerful since the summon fights for the whole party but...

Sadly no, no console. :'D And I'm pretty sure that couldn't be done here, but yeah, it could definitely use a complete overhaul.

Eliminating the elemental wheel from the mechanics-side of things has desperately dumbed down the class compared to every other installment of FF. On the same note, I see no reason for us to have elemental resistances when we have no genuine elemental offense. This aspect of the game just feels rushed and unpolished to me.

HOLY ETHER, I've been saying this ever since it was ... well, done. Maybe before, when we just heard it would be done. I really liked how there were proper elements in 1.0, how you could choose to specialise, in a way, if you wished... Apparently they felt the need to "simplify" things, because all of us are dumb and couldn't've handled it. So they turned CNJ into a healer (from the elementalist), and BLM into this insane-damage-mage, and split the "elements" between them. Only taking out the "element" part of it in the process. Meh.

[erish]

Play 2 song at the same time is nonsense, nobody can play 2 songs at the same time


In the SMN the pet does nearly to nothing, you just summon it at the beginning and let it do damage, you just use contagion if it is garuda. They should change the name to Doter or Booksmacker

real bards have 8 min x4 songs!

[Krisan]

HOLY ETHER, I've been saying this ever since it was ... well, done. Maybe before, when we just heard it would be done. I really liked how there were proper elements in 1.0, how you could choose to specialise, in a way, if you wished... Apparently they felt the need to "simplify" things, because all of us are dumb and couldn't've handled it. So they turned CNJ into a healer (from the elementalist), and BLM into this insane-damage-mage, and split the "elements" between them. Only taking out the "element" part of it in the process. Meh.

The Elemental split between WHM and BLM isn't that big of a deal to me. WHM has had Earth and Light based spells before, and Water and Air kind of makes sense too. I also don't see this as an issue in and of itself, as you should be able off-class these skills onto BLM, which would add incentive to play both mages - by design this is good, it encourages experimentation. The problem is, you can't actually do that.. BLM is barred from using any kind of WHM skills.. but it can use BRD skills, go figure.. Plus, WHM still doesn't actually have a proper "Water" line of spells, just a knockback skill.. and both Aero and Thunder are relegated to the ranks of DoT's.. sigh.. The elemental wheel is just one of many problems I fear.

[Kallera]

I would like classes to come into their own.

Barring that, could they give bard and nin their HP restoring abilities we see in game, please?

[Galaktica]

SMN is a bit meh overall, but what bothers me the most is how boring each egi looks. That and, as far as I know, no one ever uses Ifrit once they get Garuda. I assume that's because Ifrit is useless? I dunno, point is the class could some work in my opinion.

[Keylus]

real bards have 8 min x4 songs!

Yo dawg, I heard that you like songs, so I put a song in the song, so I can sing while I am singing!!

[SendohJin]

SMN is the only thing that's wrong and it's very wrong.

it's not a good pet job and it's not a good representation of FF SMNs.