DPS display could easily be solved with a system already in game.

[Massterchef]

This is something you would NOT be able to do very easily if parsers were officially allowed. Situational mocking of someone is not an offense that violates the ToS just because you hurt someones feelings of their gameplay, afterall.

Not true at all. The harassment is what the focus on when banning or whatever conciquence they deem necessary. The fact that you are parsing is irrelevant even in the current ToS.

[Welsper59]

Not true at all. The harassment is what the focus on when banning or whatever conciquence they deem necessary. The fact that you are parsing is irrelevant even in the current ToS.

Overly done, yeah, it's very easy to catch someone and take appropriate action against them as a GM. In those cases, often very particular words are used (e.g. racial slurs or threats of violence), and these make it easy to make a call. In the case of parsers however, saying "your dps is really low. get gud nub" followed by "im carrying this group cuz the other guy sucks" and so on, is not grounds to take action against alone, regardless of how annoying this person may be. The parsing tool has a lot to do with whether or not action is taken though, even if it may not be the primary personal reason you call a GM (you called because this guys an asshole), it may be the main reason a GM can easily take action if parsing is suspected.

An old interview you may or may not have seen (particularly important in this context is the last 30sec) :
https://youtu.be/3-WXYg-S05U?t=6m4s

[Welsper59]

It has nothing to do with parsing, period. The people that get actions taken against them in-game for parsing are usually abusing it via harassment. They aren't actively looking for or into people 'suspected of parsing'.

Yes, exactly. When did I say otherwise? It's the people abusing its use or bragging too much about it that will have action taken against them, of which will involve their use of it along with whatever other violations. Third party tools, no matter how harmless, are not allowed or approved of... period. They don't WANT to get people banned (temp) for its use, but they will simply because parsing, which is done through a third party program, is not allowed. Parsing in this game is a "hush hush" matter, which means you have the go-ahead, just don't be stupid about it. Summed up, the fact it's not allowed is a tool used against bad behavior.

[Massterchef]

Yes, exactly. When did I say otherwise?

This is something you would NOT be able to do very easily if parsers were officially allowed. Situational mocking of someone is not an offense that violates the ToS just because you hurt someones feelings of their gameplay, afterall.

By claiming a person would rarely receive any consequences for harassing someone for poor DPS simply because parsers were legal. Which is again, not the case. Even if they were fair game to use, harassing people for low DPS would not be allowed.

Basically even if there is proof(via parse) that someone's DPS is low, that does not give you a green light to mock and ridicule.

[Welsper59]

By claiming a person would rarely receive any consequences for harassing someone for poor DPS simply because parsers were legal. Which is again, not the case. Even if they were fair game to use, harassing people for low DPS would not be allowed.

Basically even if there is proof(via parse) that someone's DPS is low, that does not give you a green light to mock and ridicule.

I never said rarely, or even implied it anywhere. Just because something isn't easy to do, doesn't mean it is rarely done. Please don't confuse difficulty with rarity. It is 100% correct to claim that judging someones intent or actions to be worthy of consequence as a figure of authority (i.e. a GM) is not to be taken lightly. Hence, the not being able to do very easily comment. You seem to be applying too much of your own outlook into wrongfully accusing me of something I'm not saying or even remotely implying.

Right now, because parsers require a third party add-on, parsing IS in-fact grounds for action if they choose to act on it. So yeah, parsing by default due to circumstance for this specific game, is in violation. Don't misconstrue my words into an all or nothing. I'm pointing out that the current state of things makes the fact that it's not approved of to be a tool to fight against bad behavior, one of many in that arsenal for player protection. I do agree however, that mockery and ridicule is not right, regardless of what is and isn't allowed to use as a tool.

EDIT: Ugh... connection cut before could edit.

[Massterchef]

I never said rarely, or even implied it anywhere.

You said "situation mocking is not an offense according to ToS". Which would imply exactly what I've stated in the post you quoted. If you misspoke that's fine but mocking and harassment in all forms is typically consequential.

My point is if it is made legal, you will still be able to report people under the circumstance that they are actually harassing you.

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That's probably the first I've ever seen that happen since the rule was included in ToS. That being said, alot of people on these boards openly speak about parser-use, DPS as well as post ACT SS's. None have been banned or penalized to my knowledge unless player(s) had a direct problem with it.

[kpxmanifesto]

Not true at all. The harassment is what the focus on when banning or whatever conciquence they deem necessary. The fact that you are parsing is irrelevant even in the current ToS.

I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this. This guy got an account penalty for merely mentioning a dps parser. http://imgur.com/OX7Z2yt. Found this searching google images.

This happened approximately a year ago. I'm not sure if anything has been changed since then.

This conversation with the GM makes it look like the guy was just talking to his friend about a dps parser. What actually happened is still unknown to me.