Terrible Payment System

[SilvertearRen]

if you look at their current core it is an A+
http://www.la.bbb.org/business-revie...do-CA-13168063

It was an F/E for a good while because right when FFXI came out in the US, alot of people made complaints to the BBB for the stupidest of reasons about the game.

Well, there's a new complaint now!

At least this time around, it's for a legitimate reason. I'd say Square Enix deserves a grading of "C" right now for the lack of payment options, and the sheer fact that ClickandBuy.com is an extremely toxic asset. I shouldn't forget to add: Poor performance of Final Fantasy 13.

[Catapult]

People are way to demanding on things that can not be handled carelessly.

SE says "we are looking into it" and sometimes that is all they can tell you, what if this goes legal? Then they really cant tell you squat. I know that if I was head of PR, I would not say crap unless I knew 100% what I was about to say was going to be true/accurate.

This... is true. However I come from a culture where we value a company representative that sympathies with your situation. My culture also is admittedly lazy and likes to see the magic "fix" button pushed with minimal effort on the consumer's part. When this is not an option, we like to see an at least basic reasoning as to why the magic fix button can't be pushed, one that gives us a slight insight into the internal issues causing the problem.

Because a recognized problem where the person responsible is evidently looking for ways through and around it is far easier to appreciate than one that appears to be ignored or sidelined as unimportant through a lack of acknowledgement of the issue - THAT is what pisses off the Australian consumer ((that, and sucking up to them by telling them how awesome they are without actually addressing their concern - the fallout from those sorts of situations can be extreme and has been known to floor a company's reputation indefinitely)).

[SilvertearRen]

This... is true. However I come from a culture where we value a company representative that sympathies with your situation. My culture also is admittedly lazy and likes to see the magic "fix" button pushed with minimal effort on the consumer's part. When this is not an option, we like to see an at least basic reasoning as to why the magic fix button can't be pushed, one that gives us a slight insight into the internal issues causing the problem.

Because a recognized problem where the person responsible is evidently looking for ways through and around it is far easier to appreciate than one that appears to be ignored or sidelined as unimportant through a lack of acknowledgement of the issue - THAT is what pisses off the Australian consumer ((that, and sucking up to them by telling them how awesome they are without actually addressing their concern - the fallout from those sorts of situations can be extreme and has been known to floor a company's reputation indefinitely)).

Aussies are brutal.

I give mad props to any company representative that can stare down a bear and not get mauled.

</SaxtonHale>

[Chocobits]

Well, there's a new complaint now!

At least this time around, it's for a legitimate reason. I'd say Square Enix deserves a grading of "C" right now for the lack of payment options, and the sheer fact that ClickandBuy.com is an extremely toxic asset.

Well, everyone has had a chance to say their peace tonight (today..?) and we did get somewhat of a mod reply in the other thread. More than a generic "Please refrain from derailing others' threads" they actually did say "We are aware of the many concerns.." relating to CnB. Sad to say I'm happy at least hearing that much; I wasn't honestly sure if they were aware of much at all.

I really believe that come September, or maybe even 4th week August, there will be an official announcement and an update to the situation. So many accounts like mine are in limbo because of this fiasco and (I would think that) it's become enough of a headache for the top brass to step in.

Because of the extreme frustration and anxiety this has caused all players involved, I think the official announcement needs to be made by a Square Enix official and not a community representative. We do deserve that much.

[SilvertearRen]

Well, everyone has had a chance to say their peace tonight (today..?) and we did get somewhat of a mod reply in the other thread. More than a generic "Please refrain from derailing others' threads" they actually did say "We are aware of the many concerns.." relating to CnB. Sad to say I'm happy at least hearing that much; I wasn't honestly sure if they were aware of much at all.

I really believe that come September, or maybe even 4th week August, there will be an official announcement and an update to the situation. So many accounts like mine are in limbo because of this fiasco and (I would think that) it's become enough of a headache for the top brass to step in.

Because of the extreme frustration and anxiety this has caused all players involved, I think the official announcement needs to be made by a Square Enix official and not a community representative. We do deserve that much.

I agree. Time to march the Imperial Hot (Yoichi Wada) out in front of the press? Maybe this time, they should put up a poll for what we should have Mr. Wada wear at the press conference.

I nominate that he wear a panda suit while making the announcement.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

Because of the extreme frustration and anxiety this has caused all players involved, I think the official announcement needs to be made by a Square Enix official and not a community representative. We do deserve that much.

Sorry but I don't feel frustration and anxiety over this stupid situation, I looked into click&Buy, raised an eyebrow and closed my account following their instructions, if they don't I have backed up all my emails and the page related to canceling an account and what is done when said account is closed.

I am not angry at SE, nor bothered by this at all, and it is only a small bother to me. Really if people are getting this upset, they need to really see about getting some pills to calm them down because they take things way to seriously.

[SilvertearRen]

Sorry but I don't feel frustration and anxiety over this stupid situation, I looked into click&Buy, raised an eyebrow and closed my account following their instructions, if they don't I have backed up all my emails and the page related to canceling an account and what is done when said account is closed.

I am not angry at SE, nor bothered by this at all, and it is only a small bother to me. Really if people are getting this upset, they need to really see about getting some pills to calm them down because they take things way to seriously.

You are failing to grasp one fundamental truth for some of us: The safety of our financial data is paramount, and when a company has been confirmed to be untrustworthy, it's enough reason for us to avoid the risk entirely - or demand a solution when we have been unnecessarily exposed to that risk.

Some of us place a great deal of value on our financial security, and when that has been violated, we get VERY upset.

[Chocobits]

Sorry but I don't feel frustration and anxiety over this stupid situation, I looked into click&Buy, raised an eyebrow and closed my account following their instructions, if they don't I have backed up all my emails and the page related to canceling an account and what is done when said account is closed.

I am not angry at SE, nor bothered by this at all, and it is only a small bother to me. Really if people are getting this upset, they need to really see about getting some pills to calm them down because they take things way to seriously.

If there were alternatives than I would agree with you. For many, there aren't. The only real alternative to CnB is UltimatePay, which isn't available in many places and isn't viable in any place. Also, CnB is defrauding and scamming many players. I feel it is a big deal. In all my time playing FFXI I personally feel this is the biggest controversy SE has immersed themselves in, and certainly the biggest slap in the face to their customers.

If we had reasonable options this thread would not exist, and the tinfoil hats would be safely folded away in the cupboard collecting dust.

And also, many have gone through the CnB cancellation process and not been granted their cancellations.. As well as the fact that CnB retains CC information indefinitely and has been known to reactivate accounts and continue billing on them.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

You are failing to grasp one fundamental truth for some of us: The safety of our financial data is paramount, and when a company has been confirmed to be untrustworthy, it's enough reason for us to avoid the risk entirely - or demand a solution when we have been unnecessarily exposed to that risk.

and you dont think I feel the same way about my data?, again go here
http://clickandbuy.com/US/en/sa/help...bereich=surfer
follow the instructions, keep the evidence of it, and that's it. Really people there is no need for all this extra stress you are placing on yourselves.

[SilvertearRen]

and you dont think I feel the same way about my data?, again go here
http://clickandbuy.com/US/en/sa/help...bereich=surfer
follow the instructions, keep the evidence of it, and that's it. Really people there is no need for all this extra stress you are placing on yourselves.

There is no guarantee they will not touch your account after you close it. There have been instances of them surreptitiously reactivating your account.

And also, many have gone through the CnB cancellation process and not been granted their cancellations.. As well as the fact that CnB retains CC information indefinitely and has been known to reactivate accounts and continue billing on them.

Also, this. This is another reason why I cancelled my CC on file with CnB.

Seriously Kailea, did you read the entire thread? There are excerpts of people having been scammed here, there are statements describing the antics of CnB, there is even proof of fraud reports that I linked.

And you still think it's not a big deal?

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