T13 adds

[whiskeybravo]

I tried that too Taint, just wasn't enough to keep the add there long enough for BB to make contact. Healers too stronk I think lol, hell the whm pulled off with unchained BB, skull sunder not gonna cut it (maybe if they do delay the cure 3 a bit like others suggested, but not atm)

Also may help if I could put more str gear on, but healers are newish, as well as myself so I been using more vit for cushion.

[SirTaint]

I tried that too Taint, just wasn't enough to keep the add there long enough for BB to make contact. Healers too stronk I think lol, hell the whm pulled off with unchained BB, skull sunder not gonna cut it (maybe if they do delay the cure 3 a bit like others suggested, but not atm)

Also may help if I could put more str gear on, but healers are newish, as well as myself so I been using more vit for cushion.

WHMs panic and C3 was too fast during phase 2. If that is the case you need to use Provoke. Skull > (cure3 coming out) voke > BB > Brutal (to cancel animation)

Tell your WHM to chill until after BB. The only damage going out at that time is to the tanks, topping off the DPS is not a concern.

[Myrhn]

Tell the whm to medica2 right after mega flare and do a cure3 when bahamut is casting rage of bahamut. No heal nesessary after rage and medica2 tic will most likely top or near top dps

[whiskeybravo]

OK, I'll try all the suggestions. Thanks! It wasn't necessarily slowing us down, we were able to make it 2nd ahk morn a few times in our 2nd raid night, just trying to polish up the earlier phases, and it's really annoying the adds act like that so was looking for tips

[Credor]

• The problem with Flash is that it's incredibly low threat compared to a prep'd Butcher's Block. Flash is approximately 500 threat. Butcher's Block is 7.5x the damage you deal. Chances are one of your DPS will peel the add off you the instant your Flash finishes.

Correct numbers are:
- Flash is 600 thread, with Defiance (x2 and 25% penalty) this is 900 thread
- Butchers Block is 5.5x dmg, with Defiance and when comboed - gives 2310 thread

And two pros for Flash:
- dont need target, so can be use before add landing (as pre-Flash)
- Flash dont break combo, so can be played before BB

[MythToken]

Flash is the correct way to do it, the timing can be tricky but its worth it.

Another trick is have your WHM run over to you while the add is popping, so even if the add targets him, it wont move.
This allows you to stand there and hit it with stuff. WHM takes 1 hit it's no big deal.

[SpookyGhost]

Flash isn't really the "correct" way to do it, just the most safe. A combo'd SS or BB will gain you more aggro/DPS (since 1 GCD of Flash is no damage). For simply clearing T13 I'd suggest Flash, but I'd work on using SS/BB.

[Credor]

Flash isn't really the "correct" way to do it, just the most safe. A combo'd SS or BB will gain you more aggro/DPS (since 1 GCD of Flash is no damage). For simply clearing T13 I'd suggest Flash, but I'd work on using SS/BB.

About aggro: SS gives 1050 enmity potency, Flash - 900. Difference is not great.
About DPS - yes, Flash has 0 dmg and 1 GCD, but can be played BEFORE add becomes targetable, that means - before normal damage. Played with optimal timing, Flash delay normal dmg (BB and so on) about 1-2s.
Or Steel Cyclone can be played instead of Flash, that gives enmity potency 1200 and 200 dps potency. But in my opinion, better is use stacks for IB (playing as thirds after Flash and BB)

[CGMidlander]

I've never had a problem with an immediate Overpower -> Brutal Swing -> BB Combo

[SpookyGhost]

I've never had a problem with an immediate Overpower -> Brutal Swing -> BB Combo

Yep, this works as well. Just costs a bit more TP/damage vs a combo'd SS or BB.