Stone III Confirmed for WHM

[myahele]

I'm hoping it'll be ranged aoe maybe with lower potency than holy due to it the safety of range.

It'll be a shame if it'll be a higher potency single target attack

[Selli]

Well if you think of it, at ilvl 130 succor should hit between 600 and 700 and crits for 900. essentially it is 1200, 1400 and 1800 heal because of the attack it nullifies.

But as your only AoE heal, if you're just using it as a way to heal everyone after an AoE and you're in a fight with 2 SCH's (such as WoD) and Whispering Dawn is on CD, it doesn't really cut it. If both SCH's Succor for 600 that's only 1200 and a single WHM Medica does about that much.

I understand SCH's aren't supposed to be big healers the way WHM's are, but I do think that just having an AoE heal would be nice (a girl can dream. XD).

[Knoahl]

Perhaps the new SCH ability is an enkindle-esque one? I think SCH could do with a nice AoE heal, but a CD of sorts could balance it and give players in some occassions reason to use Eos over Selene weaving between whispering dawn etc. This would also mean that selene would have a nice new spell as well if that were the case.

So IMO if this were the case I'd think WHM with new heals and new DPS spells should work great with the others ^^

[Greven]

Enkindle for SCH would be just awesome!

[Blueyes]

I understand SCH's aren't supposed to be big healers the way WHM's are, but I do think that just having an AoE heal would be nice (a girl can dream. XD).

Personally I like the idea of giving Scholar a respectable AoE heal that is tied to aetherflow. Nothing too strong. Could even put a recast timer on it like Sacred Soil to keep it from being spammed. Just enough to make double Scholar not feel quite as handicapped when it comes to quick party-wide recovery.

[Menae]

Doing single target DPS (in my crit, ss and det focussed gear, no CD beside water, no buffs, no food) I do around 360 DPS on a dummy.

I case of AOE dmg, I was very close to my raid BLM (testarea: CT2 first trash group).

I never got it managed to deal more DMG on scholar with equal gear. Always less.

The issues of DPSing as Whitemage are MP cost and you loose much more heal output than a scholar.

And accuracy. WHM on raid bosses is rough times without a lot of accuracy on gear. Bio and Bio 2 cannot miss, so while your Miasma and Ruins are subject to accuracy penalties, two of your higher potency attacks are guaranteed hits. The best way to get accuracy for healers has so far been crafted accessories with accuracy melds, but those typically don't come out until well into a raid's lifespan, so for most progression, scholars will do more dps.

For 4-man content, accuracy is usually not a big deal, so yeah, WHM can go nuts.

The cost of Stone II is just ridiculous. As you said, the issue with WHM damaging is the incredible mana drain from your filler spell.

LALALA EDITTED BECAUSE MY NUMBERS ARE TERRIBLE LALALA YOU SHOULD IGNORE THIS PART OF MY POST.

[Raminax]

Where'd you get those numbers from? Stone II is 159 MP and Aero II is 133 MP in-game for me. Ruin is 53 MP as well.

[Menae]

This is why you don't use wiki sites for numbers, folks. Sorry, my bad.

[Selli]

Personally I like the idea of giving Scholar a respectable AoE heal that is tied to aetherflow. Nothing too strong. Could even put a recast timer on it like Sacred Soil to keep it from being spammed. Just enough to make double Scholar not feel quite as handicapped when it comes to quick party-wide recovery.

Mhmm! I hope some good things are coming for SCH since AST is going to be the "middle job" that can fill either roll without overly dominating the other.

Makes me really worried about WHM's buffs, though. If at least SCH doesn't get them at the same strength, I fear there's going to be a WHM shortage for raid statics as we'll have all these AST and SCH's fighting over a second spot while WHM is mandatory. D:

[giantslayer]

Mhmm! I hope some good things are coming for SCH since AST is going to be the "middle job" that can fill either roll without overly dominating the other.

Makes me really worried about WHM's buffs, though. If at least SCH doesn't get them at the same strength, I fear there's going to be a WHM shortage for raid statics as we'll have all these AST and SCH's fighting over a second spot while WHM is mandatory. D:

The only reason WHM is mandatory now is because two scholars can't stack their shields. AST ought to be fully stackable with SCH, rendering any combination of two of the three healer classes viable (hopefully).