A small request of SE

[Rannie]

I don't think so Tim, go read her other posts they all say the same thing including how her character would have straight up super manned everyone in her way before getting tied up.

[Durthane]

I never suggested nothing bad should happen, or that nothing bad should happen to us. I am asking that they don't take away control of our characters persona like they did in 2.55 again.

As has been discussed if you had been paying attention, a certain amount of personality has to be railroaded. But the motive and what the character thinks is up to us, once a cutscene involves negative event within our characters ability to influence and they do not for political reasons or otherwise it excludes a lot of character types and breaks immersion for the player.

As I have stated multiple times, incapacitation or generally removing some of our in story options for that time period alleviates the problem. "I would have fought back, but they cheap shot me/poisoned me/had a hostage" Easy to do with a couple lines of dialogue and animations and keeps players from asking WTH is their character who they have played as a hotheaded berserker all the sudden scared of three brass blades.

Now go work on your reading comprehension.

[Durthane]

I think we've forgotten what OP actually said in all this discussion. Reposted for your edification:



OP is asking the writers to throw out every remotely interesting tool in their toolbox and instead write a pleasant fluff fanfic where the player character never suffers any hardship on their way to victory. That's not a hero's journey; that's shooting fish in a barrel and it's stupid.

Actually, after seeing you make multiple claims based on out of context information, I have to assume troll. BEGONE! BACK UNDER YOUR BRIDGE BEAST!

[Rannie]

I sorely hope you are not speaking to me about reading comprehension. Mine is just fine thank you very much. My post was to the one suggesting that you yourself were making this to be a joke thread and I was pointing out that as you saw it it wasn't due to seeing and reading your previous posts in a different thread entirely. What I said was the gist of what you yourself posted on the thread about what you would have done for 2.55 instead of what happened.

[Durthane]

It was directed at Axem actually.

Though to address your points, as it stands Rem WOULD go postal on the Brass blades similar to Raubahn. She would also end up most likely heavily injured and be carried out. I don't say dead due to the ultimate plot armor only PC enjoy.

But that is not possible and there is no in story reason for an emotionally driven character to act as the PC does in the current CS. Short of SE dictating how she thinks and what her motives are which are a no-no in an MMO.

[Rannie]

Ok as long as that is all cleared up we're good. Lol...

See that's the thing though I honestly can't consider this game a normal MMO due to the facts that it's

A) a SE title
B) a numbered Final Fantasy Game due to how they are writing it and the direction it is going.

C) the history of Final Fantasy in general. Most people are expecting certain things in this game and a certain direction due to it being FF.

I guess also with that is I see it as a solo game that allows you to play with others like 11 did.


Edit: I'm weird I know it lol

[lilirulu]

Last time we got knocked out by a sleep spell it was long enough so the Amal'jaa were able to move us from the top of Eastern Thanalan to what I'd assume somewhere in deep in Southern Thanalan. That sure would have been an exciting climax wouldn't it? Getting put to sleep then waking up x hour later in a jail cell.

And you know maybe your character did fight back in Nanamo's room. We never see what happens after they come in and accuse us for murder but Ilberd dragging us in versus having us walk (which would have been more convenient) heavily implies we got roughed up (if it was from just general abuse or resisting is never stated).

[Durthane]

Last time we got knocked out by a sleep spell it was long enough so the Amal'jaa were able to move us from the top of Eastern Thanalan to what I'd assume somewhere in deep in Southern Thanalan. That sure would have been an exciting climax wouldn't it? Getting put to sleep then waking up x hour later in a jail cell.

And you know maybe your character did fight back in Nanamo's room. We never see what happens after they come in and accuse us for murder but Ilberd dragging us in versus having us walk (which would have been more convenient) heavily implies we got roughed up (if it was from just general abuse or resisting is never stated).

Which would still be bad storytelling... Why do we need to make up scenes that never happened to get the story to make sense?

[Rannie]

How is it bad sorry telling when they cause us to use our imaginations and think outside of the box?

[Frederick22]

Nah I'm fine with that, because then we wouldn't get this in the future... dialogue is more fitting for Teledji, but still.

Lolorito: "Omega will be operational. Nothing will change that. What have I to fear?"

Warrior of Light: "The Avengers. That's what I like to call us; we're sort of like a team. "Eorzea's Mightiest Heroes" type thing."

Lolorito: "Yes, I've met them."

Warrior of Light: "Yeah, takes us a while to get any traction, I'll give you that one. But let's do a head count here: the ex-pirate captain leader of a confederacy who might not be so "ex;" an ageless druid who can pretty much control nature; a refugee war hero who got a 1000 match win streak in the pit; a knight who broke the the mold in a caste-based society; all of the Scions, and YOU, big fella, you've managed to piss off every single one of them."

Lolorito: "That was the plan."

Warrior of Light: "Not a great plan. When they come, and they will, they'll come for you."

Lolorito: "I have two armies and Omega."

Warrior of Light: "We took down Ultima."

Lolorito: "That thing's a toy in comparison..."

Warrior of Light: "You're missing the point! There's no throne, there is no version of this where you come out on top. Maybe you activate Omega and maybe it's too much for us but it's all on you. Because if we can't protect Eorzea you can be damn well sure we'll avenge it!"

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Warrior of Light: "Oh yeah, and there's one other person you pissed off! Her name is Nanamo."

EDIT: Included Aymeric, just in case.

I totaly agree with you Cilia. A 100% hahahahaha :P
Btw your arguments are amasing !