The constant disbanding of Steps of Faith

[Sohrae]

Considering I'm relatively new to the game still are you suggesting that the only way I will be able to finish the storyline is to hope I can make 7 friends that are willing to help me do this one trial? The fact that this is clearly something that the majority of the FF community absolutely hates, then why are people being trapped behind it just because they weren't caught up to do it 'just that once'?

I have tried this 6 times today alone and it is either people instantly leaving or 'not having enough time to wipe on this'.

So what are us new players suppose to do? I assume something will be done about this eventually otherwise any new players are just going to stop playing when they realise they can't progress to the end of the storyline and even into Heavensward..

[Twilite]

Considering I'm relatively new to the game still are you suggesting that the only way I will be able to finish the storyline is to hope I can make 7 friends that are willing to help me do this one trial?

Yes. Well these people wont tell you that directly, but that is certainly evident. However it is not practical in a game where socialism is unbelievably weak. There's gonna be DF steps thats for sure - you'll have a shot at it, but you can forget about being grouped with more than one player experienced in it.

A good bit of the community seems to have a problem with inexperienced/new players, I've even read on another forum I wont mention that so and so didn't want new players in ishgard. This kind of divide is not necessary and will have some glaring negative effects on the community sooner or later.

Well whatever. . . in about 10 years people are gonna be begging for fresh players.

And Leigaon, new players aren't the "Current problem in the game".

[MicahZerrshia]

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Have you tried forming a party using party finder instead of duty finder? We have had many successful clears using pf. It sometimes takes a little time to fill, upwards of 30 mins but then it gets cleared in 1-2 attempts so the wait time is worth it if you consider the time you would spend bashing your head against it otherwise. Just plan the strat ahead of time, most likely their will be people who join just to help, there are almost always 2-3 of these in our groups. Then once the strat is explained and someone isn't trolling or just has no clue its a really quick and easy fight.

I am surprised, honestly, at how few people use or even think about party finder. It seems to be easily forgotten and wait times can be a drag, but you need to think of the big picture and total time spend when it comes to df vs. pf.

And honestly its an mmo, so making friends in-game is the way you get things done quickly. If you are unwilling to make friends I don't understand why you would play a game in which you have to rely on other people to complete content. Even the most casual of players can at least make a few friends.

[Gralna]

I am surprised, honestly, at how few people use or even think about party finder. It seems to be easily forgotten and wait times can be a drag, but you need to think of the big picture and total time spend when it comes to df vs. pf.

Dunno about other servers, but I rarely check PF, since 90% of it tends to be either advertisements, veiled carries (no scrubs, 1 death = kick), or farm groups. Few times I've tried to make clear parties for storyline duties, I ended up timing out.

[Catwho]

Dunno about other servers, but I rarely check PF, since 90% of it tends to be either advertisements, veiled carries (no scrubs, 1 death = kick), or farm groups. Few times I've tried to make clear parties for storyline duties, I ended up timing out.

You can shout for it as well, and then go in via Duty Finder with a partially formed group. As long as your canoneers and tower person are designated in the pre formed group and know what they're doing, you can explain to the pickups their roles.

[Gralna]

You can shout for it as well, and then go in via Duty Finder with a partially formed group. As long as your canoneers and tower person are designated in the pre formed group and know what they're doing, you can explain to the pickups their roles.

I do this anyway in DF, difference is I don't waste an hour waiting for PF to fill up. As I said before, never had a problem with SoF, I explain mechanics in detail while waiting for replacements for people who drop

[MicahZerrshia]

You can shout for it as well, and then go in via Duty Finder with a partially formed group. As long as your canoneers and tower person are designated in the pre formed group and know what they're doing, you can explain to the pickups their roles.

You could technically /sh for pts but in a game with things like party finder this gets you blisted often. I know if I am doing something in a zone and someone is /sh for pts, unless there are considerable gaps in the /sh (3+ mins usually) I will blist them, even if its only temporarily. I get enough spam in my text box from rmt, ppl trolling in /sh, emotes, and ppl who wanna chat in /s instead of /t that I often use blist as a filter since toggling between shutting off and turning on shouts or says and such isn't efficient. And frankly pf is there so you don't have to /sh for hours like we had to in xi. Refusing to use such a handy dandy tool is really just shooting yourself in the foot.

I check and use pf often and have never timed out.

[Sohrae]

Have you tried forming a party using party finder instead of duty finder?

And honestly its an mmo, so making friends in-game is the way you get things done quickly.

I have tried PF, unsurprisingly it seems not many people are wanting to do it. I can't blame people, but the fight isn't even that difficult, it's just the lack of communication and people instantly quitting that is frustrating.

Considering this stigma some people seem to have towards new players it is actually not that easy to find friends at 50 from my experience so far.

I have also played MMOs for long enough to know that preparation is not a bad thing, I watched videos, I read guides.. but what does that matter when you rely on other people where some of them instantly leave and the other new people don't want to do research because it would ruin the trial and story for them?