The constant disbanding of Steps of Faith

[Raeletta]

..because people other than your circle of friends has a shot at getting into ishgard and not wasting money on an expansion they can't play?

This isn't ONLY about players who are unwilling to learn.

I did it with PF, only 2 people were my friends. Well, before the PF anyway, now I think 5 of them are my friends. I made sure to friend the dragoon, he didn't hit the floor once.

Body Slam = 1 shot to non-tanks
Sidewise Swipe = even if you dodge this, you can still get 1 shot by an exploding cannon
someone shoots 2nd/3rd dragonkiller at wrong time = whoops, you just killed your party

Uhh, yeah, there are 1 shot mechanics here.

Swipe: like an 8 second casting time, survivable with stoneskin or gear. Cannons exploding, see above, you get a very long time to disengage.

Missing a dragonkiller? I never even realised he hurt people when he slammed, but clearly, it's not covering the whole arena and it definitely is not a one-shot unless you're squishy.

[Cyrus-Wallace]

Thanks for your feedback.

Adjustments to ease the Steps of Faith trial are in the works, and we'll be announcing more information about the how and when soon enough!

That's why we can't have nice things. Thanks, guys! (players), it's Pharos Sirius all over again...

[Fynlar]

Anyone who didn't see a nerf coming was just fooling themselves.

And frankly, something that's locking out the expansion had no business being this irritating to clear.

What if all story content in the expansion is of a similar calibre to SoF?

Then that is a sad, sad prospect for the quality of this upcoming expansion, in my eyes.

[RukiaFae]

Why is this so irritating to clear? Beside finding a party to run this with, why do people hate this fight? Titan ex was my hill to die on but now I like it also.

[myahele]

Why is this so irritating to clear? Beside finding a party to run this with, why do people hate this fight? Titan ex was my hill to die on but now I like it also.

I cant speak for everyone, but to me it's a boring fight similar Stone Vigil HM 2nd boss fight was boring.

But I think the most annoying aspect is that if you wipe or fail to do a mechanic you wont reset from the beginning. You'll have to wait until Vishap reaches the end (which can take a while) until you can do it again.This isn't too bad if you're in a premade since you can vote abandon and try again, but it certainly can be if you're using DF consisting of strangers

[RyuDragnier]

Anyone who didn't see a nerf coming was just fooling themselves.

And frankly, something that's locking out the expansion had no business being this irritating to clear.



Then that is a sad, sad prospect for the quality of this upcoming expansion, in my eyes.

More like a sad prospect for the people who aren't actively trying to get better at the game. As mean as that sounds, it needs to be said. This fight is easier than any EX mode primal, easier than the various turns of Coil, easier than Ultima HM, it's like a baby step into the endgame's difficult stuff, all of which requires some thinking outside of the box. Guess what, Heavensward is likely to have more stuff like this all over the place, so get used to it now.

[RiceisNice]

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Then why not start it with 3.0 rather than gating to it? Even if you try to tell them to get better at the game, soemthing like SoF is much more team oriented where you can't outcarry 2 or 3 baddies (or trolls), even if they were DPS who typically have the most leeway for performance.

You could say its a babystep to endgame...except this isn't even required for coil so I'm not sure what it's supposed to lead to. If it's leading to what 3.0 is expecting, then I'd like to vouch that it'd be the wrong time to do so (at the end of 2.0 instead of one of the story trials in 3.0).

Comparing it to Dark Souls is a little much... just because you personally find it irrationally more difficult than it actually is does not warrant a comparison to suggest everyone does. This line of argument is basically saying that we can never have any variety in content because people can't adapt. Is that what you want? Nothing but fights where everyone just burns the boss whilst ignoring AOEs that do too little damage to actually bother dodging them?

It's incredibly sad that the creative direction of future storyline content is going to be completely inhibited because a few players don't want to have to think about anything...

My point was that Dark Souls started off without pulling any punches with it's difficulty or curve balls. I'm not saying we should have difficult fights, but we shouldn't ahve difficulty spikes (which we also see in T5, T9 after nerfs, but those are supposed to be side, end game content)

Think of it like this.; you're only doing main scenario. Do you feel that the difficulty jump fight expectation (meaning party communication, group composition and all that) transitions smoothly from Good King Moggle Mog XII-> Levi HM -> Ramuh HM -> Shiva HM -> Mr.Ascian > SoF? I do not feel that's the case because of how the fight work, how the NPCs give you vague advice which can be perceived as the wrong strategy, the "requirement" of a 2/2/4 party breakdown, and the degree of execution required from every single party member (can you afford to carry 2 deadweights that can't dps or even manage cannons?)

Like I mentioned before, I'm all for main scenario fights being more difficult or even interesting, Levi HM was an utter disappointment to me and honestly EX should've been for main scenario instead, but I feel this is a wrong way to immediately introduce it (being at the end of a game cycle and being required for the expansion) all things considered.

[RyuDragnier]

Then why not start it with 3.0 rather than gating to it? Even if you try to tell them to get better at the game, soemthing like SoF is much more team oriented where you can't outcarry 2 or 3 baddies (or trolls), even if they were DPS who typically have the most leeway for performance.

You could say its a babystep to endgame...except this isn't even required for coil so I'm not sure what it's supposed to lead to. If it's leading to what 3.0 is expecting, then I'd like to vouch that it'd be the wrong time to do so (at the end of 2.0 instead of one of the story trials in 3.0).

Well it's the final story battle of the 2.x story, makes sense that it's this hard. I'd be disappointed if it had been lolLahabrea easy again.

[Elusana_Celah]

Thanks for your feedback.

Adjustments to ease the Steps of Faith trial are in the works, and we'll be announcing more information about the how and when soon enough!

Uh oh! We can't have ANY content in this game that requires players to use that white cell-based mass inside their heads! Ooo! ooo! That cause me have the big big headache! Need to make all the things as dumb as possible so that there is no need for them to exercise that waste of space inside their heads.

FFXIV needs to support 123 123 123 123 and only that so that players can continue to watch TV in their rooms while playing the game using only their peripheral vision.

[EZ5902]

Thanks for your feedback.

Adjustments to ease the Steps of Faith trial are in the works, and we'll be announcing more information about the how and when soon enough!

There is nothing wrong with it, people are just giving up after one wipe, not giving others chance to learn it, some are even leaving as soon as it starts because it cuts into their "grind time".

There are still players learning this and those that have done it for story are not going to waste their time helping others, because that is what 90% of players dont like to do...

Don't make it any easier, just add something that will give players a reason to run it.