Please Eliminate or Reduce A Lot of the Pure RNG Design

[BlueThunder]

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I did abandon my own relic after not being able to get my last 3 atmas. When they increased the drop I picked it back up and then decided to take all the sweet time in the world to finish my PLD Zodiac. When you rush things, you will easily get burned out, no matter if you are lucky or not.

Also, OP mentioned fixing RNG even in raid loot and the way it sounded would make raiding quite obsolete in a mater of a month for many. Besdies, it would be very complex to work the rng system in raid considering all 8 players would need to be taken into account, not only oneself.

[Yukiko]

Well, and then there are those players who just roll on everything, even when having cloud of darkness or ponies, just to discard them afterwards!
When asking why: They are fine with RNG and it was a fair roll...

[SongJoohee]

RNG is used to keep people hooked into the game. If you end up making things without RNG, the second you clear content and get your fat loot on the first try, you simply stop playing and paying until the next content, and smart developers don't want that.

RNG is part of an MMO experience, sure it can be frustrating, but its also what keeps us coming back to keep trying to get what we want.

There would be absolutely no harm in having alternate ways to gather the RNG items. Say the following:

1% drop-rate with a guaranteed item after 200 kills.

This is what I and many people were calling for with the original relic quest. You keep the RNG, but you also have a fail-safe mechanic that can be triggered if someone is getting that unlucky. Based on statistics, most players won't ever trigger the fail-safe, but it will be there to prevent players getting frustrated.

[LTEvil]

I did abandon my own relic after not being able to get my last 3 atmas. When they increased the drop I picked it back up and then decided to take all the sweet time in the world to finish my PLD Zodiac. When you rush things, you will easily get burned out, no matter if you are lucky or not.

Also, OP mentioned fixing RNG even in raid loot and the way it sounded would make raiding quite obsolete in a mater of a month for FEW. Besdies, it would be very complex to work the rng system in raid considering all 8 players would need to be taken into account, not only oneself.

Fixed it for You. Anything a long the lines of many or a lot does not describe ffxiv raiding population.

[AsahinaMyLove]

Yeah please do! That stupid RNG ruins the game its fun and makes us people really angry!! <-<
I dont wanna do 100x the same lame dungeon for 1 item Lol...

I did that on WoD.. I feelt very stupid(such a big time waste!!!) when I got the gear I wished for after 27runs...
And also: 79 Loses on Dark Cloud minion!! thanks for that shitty RNG!! D: <<<

Last time I did such silly things. now I just do rouletes for tomes and play other games.
The RNG gets ignored, why roll on an item if you will dont get it?

[Galdous]

Yeah please do! That stupid RNG ruins the game its fun and makes us people really angry!! <-<
I dont wanna do 100x the same lame dungeon for 1 item Lol...

I did that on WoD.. I feelt very stupid(such a big time waste!!!) when I got the gear I wished for after 27runs...
And also: 79 Loses on Dark Cloud minion!! thanks for that shitty RNG!! D: <<<

Last time I did such silly things. now I just do rouletes for tomes and play other games.
The RNG gets ignored, why roll on an item if you will dont get it?

The purpose of an MMO is not instant gradification but a steady power increase process for your charater via goal of glamour sets of gear or aquiring gear for your main job and alt jobs. There are many options to gear up in this game with guaranteed gear progression via tomes.

Relic are not for everyone. I have finished 4 zetas and had almost 40 runs off Aurum Vale on my third zodiac but even someone with a 2-3 hour max play time with 3 days max a week played even I managed all of this just over time. Just be patient and you will get your just reward and it will feel immensely better knowing you did not cry out for nerfs on range.

[NolLacnala]

Don't you just miss the old RNG days of yore that was Phantasy Star Online?

If you saw someone waving around a Dark Flow you could be 99% certain it was duped.

You also had the RNG of joining a random room and having a hacker corrupt your character into my namesake.

[Hayward]

If you saw someone waving around a Dark Flow you could be 99% certain it was duped.

You also had the RNG of joining a random room and having a hacker corrupt your character into my namesake.

Anyone who has played PSO, of all people, should understand why pure RNG is simply useless in this era of MMOs.

[Imoye]

Raid gear shouldn't be RNG, u srs breh? It needs to be; for the thrill and such. If you can anticipate everything in the game, then it becomes stale and boring. RNG is there for a reason, as in any loot-based game.

I do however, agree that relic/zodiac shouldn't be RNG. It definitely should take time, but it shouldn't be based on pure RNG where some are more lucky than others. That's silly and the main reason I won't bother with zodiac.

[SDaemon]

Raid gear shouldn't be RNG, u srs breh? It needs to be; for the thrill and such. If you can anticipate everything in the game, then it becomes stale and boring. RNG is there for a reason, as in any loot-based game.

I do however, agree that relic/zodiac shouldn't be RNG. It definitely should take time, but it shouldn't be based on pure RNG where some are more lucky than others. That's silly and the main reason I won't bother with zodiac.

For the thrills and such? Nothing really thrilling about players farming a Turn for months only to never get the drop they spent those months farming for, while others can walk in and get it in their first go. It is what it is, but that certainly isn't thrilling.